Evidence of meeting #3 for Justice and Human Rights in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vote.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Marc-Olivier Girard
Nathalie Drouin  Deputy Minister of Justice and Deputy Attorney General of Canada, Department of Justice

The Clerk

Thank you, Madam Chair.

You are absolutely right. To summarize, the deadline for reporting the supplementary estimates is always three sitting days prior to the last opposition day. That will be given to the opposition in the House of Commons before December 10.

As you mentioned, it is indeed a moving target because it is the government that designates the opposition day, and we learn only down the road when that last opposition day will be held.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Thank you, Mr. Clerk.

Please excuse me. I know we only have 15 minutes left of our meeting. We have a lot on the agenda to still get through.

I will call that question. Those in favour of voting on the mains and the supplementaries today, please raise your hands. I see Mr. Virani, Mr. Zuberi, Mr. Garrison, Mr. Maloney and Mr. Sangha. That's five.

Mr. Clerk, do we have enough to vote on both?

The Clerk

You have five thumbs-up, as I saw.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Yes.

Do I need to take a recorded vote on this, Mr. Clerk?

The Clerk

Yes, you need a recorded vote if there is no unanimous consent, or if it's not agreed, for instance, on division.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

In that case, Mr. Clerk, can you please go ahead and take the recorded vote for whether we are voting on the mains and the supplementaries today, please?

The Clerk

Absolutely.

I will need a mover for that motion, so if it's all right, I will put the question to Mr. Virani as a mover.

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Yes, that's fine.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Thank you very much for that, Mr. Clerk.

We'll go ahead with voting on the main estimates and the supplementary estimates at this time.

Are we going to do a recorded vote, or would you like to vote on division, or unanimously?

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

What's the question? Are we voting on the main estimates?

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Yes, we are voting on the mains at this time.

The question is: Shall vote 1 under Administrative Tribunals Support Service of Canada carry? The amount in question is $15,402,691.

Mr. Clerk, would you carry out a recorded vote at this time?

The Clerk

Mr. Cooper.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

I thought we were going to go on division.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

I didn't hear a response from anybody when I asked that, but we're happy to go on division.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

[Inaudible—Editor] on division?

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

I'm sorry, Mr. Virani, were you saying something?

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

I'm not sure what Mr. Cooper just asked. I guess there was no clarity, but I'm happy to vote on this based on consent rather than on division.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Mr. Clerk, can you provide some clarity to us, please, on what the impact of each would be?

The Clerk

You have three options, basically, committee members.

One option is that there is clear, unanimous consent among the committee members, and everybody is in agreement. Another is that motion could be adopted or carried on division; that's your second option. The third option, of course, is to do a recorded vote.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Normally, at least at this committee in the previous four years I served on it, we typically handled this by moving forward on division.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

That's absolutely fine as long as we get a clear vote on them.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I agree with Mr. Cooper, Madam Chair.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Thank you.

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

I'm also in approval of what Mr. Cooper suggested, that we approve them on division.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Thank you very much.

Mr. Clerk, we're going to be approving all of the main estimates on division. Do I need to read the questions?