Evidence of meeting #32 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was energy.
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NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
He called the question to a vote. The chair just called to adjourn debate.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Mr. Chair, I would like to speak to the same point of order—
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I have a point of order on the floor, Mr. Chair.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Please shut your microphones down, because I am calling the vote to adjourn debate.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
You can't. I'm raising a point of order.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
You can't just make things up, Mr. Chair. There are rules to committee, and I have a point of order raised.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
What's your point of order, Mr. Genuis? Then we're going to have the vote.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Thank you.
Mr. Chair, there is a process with respect to votes that has to be respected at every committee. That process is that when a vote is taken, the question is read by the chair, and the committee is asked to cast their votes. If a member requests a roll call vote, a roll call vote must be taken.
This is clearly established in the precedence of committees—
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
—and in the rules of this committee.
You did not read—
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NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
This is interference. Mr. Chair, you called the vote, the new vote—
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Mr. Chair, we can go sequentially on points of order or we can not go sequentially on points of order. I'm pretty comfortable with either—
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NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
You clearly don't want to do that because you keep interrupting.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John Aldag
Mr. Genuis has the floor right now on his point of order.
The issue is that you called for the recorded vote after the vote was already under way. You can't do that. It needs to be done before the vote. The vote was already under way. The ruling is that we had a vote and it's been done. We now have a motion on the floor to adjourn debate. That's it.
Is there anything further on your point of order?
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Yes, Mr. Chair.
There have been a number of violations of order by you, respectfully, in the last 10 minutes.
Number one, when it comes to a vote, you have to read the question in advance, which you did not do.
You have to then allow members the opportunity to request a roll call vote, which you did not do. I was trying to do that. As you'll note, I was talking continuously throughout that process.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Thank you, Mr. Angus. Mr. Angus noted it. I think other members did as well, because the rules were not being followed—
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NDP
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I welcome Mr. Angus' feedback after I am finished, or he can provide it concurrently, but it might be more useful for other members if he wasn't providing it concurrently.
