Evidence of meeting #8 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was bilingual.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Louise McEvoy  General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada
Louise-Hélène Sénécal  Assistant General Counsel, Law Branch, Air Canada
Joseph Galimberti  Director, Government Relations, Air Canada

9:50 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

When we receive a complaint from the Commissioner of Official Languages, the complainant remains anonymous. Sometimes we manage to obtain the complainant's authorization, which helps us pursue the investigation.

However, we often have enough information, such as the date, flight number or destination, for which flight and so on, to determine who the complaint is targeting, that is which employee or which branch. Then, as I said earlier, the person is contacted individually by his branch director. Of course, the investigation is completed first.

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Are you referring to the employee?

9:50 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

I am referring to the employee.

Then, we submit our response to the commissioner in accordance with the inquiry that has been completed.

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Do the complaints specifically concern the quality of the French spoken or the quality of the service provided in French? Because I see a difference between the two.

9:55 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

So do I. No, we never receive complaints about the quality of the French spoken. Even if someone is not fluently bilingual, the effort that is made is always greatly appreciated by our customers.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

I see that you have a new training session that helps anglophones who do not speak French to at least tell the customer to wait one moment while they find someone who can speak French. So the usual procedure is to go and find someone.

9:55 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

Yes, exactly.

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Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Do you give promotions to employees who are not bilingual?

For example, we know that VIA Rail has a system whereby bilingual employees can receive promotions. It was mentioned briefly earlier. There was a sub-question on it. Have you done the same thing?

9:55 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

It depends on the position. If the position has no language requirements, then it's open to everybody. If not, then no.

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Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

I would like to come back to the number of complaints, which intrigues me somewhat. Unfortunately, we do not have the figures for the years leading up to 2007. There were major corporate changes at Air Canada around the year 2000.

I would like to know the total number of complaints that have been filed since 2000.

9:55 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

We can certainly get that for you, yes.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Even though you don't necessarily have that information this morning, can you tell me whether things have improved, that is, whether the number of complaints has declined, or whether it varies from one year to another?

9:55 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

There was an increase at a certain time, coinciding with the advent of email and the many electronic and computer devices we have today. However, there has indeed been a drop over the past few years.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

I took the plane last week, and I was extremely well served, in both languages, in fact.

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General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

That's great. Thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Mr. Généreux.

We will finish the second round with Mr. Godin.

9:55 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Let's come back to the business of complaints.

On March 11, I was on a flight between Montreal and Bathurst. Was it even possible to find a bilingual person, on that particular flight, AC 8742—I believe that “AC” means “Air Canada”—operated by Jazz—I don't need you to explain that you are with Jazz—who could just say: “Excuse me, one moment please”? Where would you find someone like that? Would you need to stop in Quebec City?

9:55 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

No. On Jazz flights which have a crew based in Montreal, employees should be bilingual.

9:55 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

They are not all based in Montreal. Some are from Halifax. Are we talking about Jazz, yes or no?

9:55 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

Generally, flights which leave Montreal—

9:55 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

In Bathurst, in Acadie-Bathurst, 80% of people are francophone. In Montreal, there are 6 million francophones out of a population of 7 million.

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General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

It's a flight which must be bilingual.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

If you stop in Quebec to pick up a French-speaking crew member, that's nearly 90%.

9:55 a.m.

General Manager , Languages and Diversity, Employee Relations, Air Canada

Louise McEvoy

Yes, indeed, there have to be bilingual crew members.

9:55 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Again, on March 29—I filed a complaint with Air Canada and sent a copy to the Commissioner of Official Languages, because it doesn't really matter who I am—it was the same complaint. I asked for a glass of orange juice, and I received a glass of water. “Jus d'orange” and orange, it basically sounds the same. It's as if you went to Tim Hortons and asked for a coffee, and you were told: “I don't speak French”, because no one understood the word “coffee”. You say: “It is foggy outside”, and the person replies: “Yes, there's still a lot of snow.” I'm sorry, but this is not serious. It's a circus.