Evidence of meeting #23 for Official Languages in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was tests.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Christine Holke
Lucie Lecomte  Committee Researcher
David Manicom  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Corinne Prince-St-Amand  Director General, Integration and Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Stefanie Beck  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Donald Cochrane  Senior Director, International Region, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

8:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

I propose that we proceed since there seems to be unanimous agreement around the table.

Who had moved the main motion? Was it you, Mr. Généreux? I propose that you withdraw your main motion and we unanimously adopt the one we have before us.

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Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

That is fine with me.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Is that acceptable to everyone?

(The motion is adopted.)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

The next point...

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

The list is being photocopied. I had problems with my computer. Everything is working fine in Parliament!

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

So we will distribute the original witness list.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

You made us work for that yesterday.

9 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Yes, but there are additions. Mr. Boissonneault submitted a list of additional witnesses, and Mr. Samson submitted one.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Are you talking about the roadmap or about immigration?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

I am talking about immigration.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Mr. Chair, last week, you asked that Mr. Samson, Mr. Arseneault, Mr. Choquette and I meet to prepare a list. When we met, we did not know there were other witnesses. We would have done it differently; we would have worked together.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Pardon me, but I do not understand.

Mr. Samson, I am listening.

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

We had submitted this list at the last meeting, but we did not have it yesterday.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

I had it, but...

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Did we have it yesterday?

Mrs. Boucher, our process will not change, unless we realize something. For people who are not part of the government or community organizations, they are submissions. So we can have the four questions sent out to all these groups for them to answer them. I do not think that changes anything about yesterday's work.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

We should stop going in circles, or we will not accomplish anything.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

I would like to clarify things. On Thursday, from 8:45 a.m. to 9:45 a.m., we will meet with representatives of the Fédération nationale des conseils scolaires francophones, and from 9:45 a.m. to 10:45 a.m., we will meet with representatives of the Réseau de développement économique et d'employabilité Canada.

Those are the groups we will be hearing from on Thursday.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

I am going to ask my question again: why is all of that decided in advance? Why were we asked to form a small group to review the witness list and allocate hours or half-hours? Why did you ask us to work together, when once we get here, we find that everything has already been decided?

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Mr. Chair, I would like to answer, if I may.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Go ahead, Mr. Samson.

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

That is a good question. There is no problem with wanting to understand.

We cannot stop the bus when it is moving. The other day, we scheduled the first two or three meetings while waiting for the Committee to establish a process. That is all we did. If we had not done that, we could not have confirmed any witnesses for Thursday.

This group is the one that was on our priority list. This is not individuals from other groups; this is our community.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

All right.

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

That is all.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Mrs. Boucher, I am listening.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Except that we duplicated and triplicated the work.