Evidence of meeting #55 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was contracts.
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Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
—dealing with my last question to Mr. Marshall, I see he's looking through his documents.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Do you have something to add, Mr. Marshall? Do you want to add to the—
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Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
The reason I raise a point of order here is just that perhaps he could provide this committee with a list—it doesn't have to be today—of dates on which his minister and perhaps other ministers were briefed on this matter. And can he give us the relevant briefing material with which they were provided?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
No. The material, a briefing to a minister, would be totally excluded to this committee.
Are you able to give the date on which you briefed the minister?
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Deputy Minister, Public Works and Government Services Canada
Yes. We have a chronology, and we can—
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Okay, I would ask you to present something to the committee and give us the relevant date lines as to what you did.
We're going to move on. Colleagues, we're going to have a round of seven minutes. It will be two Liberals, two Conservatives, an NDP, and a Bloc member.
Ms. Sgro, you have seven minutes.
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Mr. Brazeau, you indicated that you had dealt with thousands of contracts.
How long had you been dealing with the procurement contracts? Was it a year or two years that you were in that particular position?
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As an Individual
I started in July 2000. I was suspended, with pay, in September 2004.
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
So in that almost two-year period of time, how many contracts, ballpark, would you estimate you were dealing with?
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
In all that time that you were dealing with these contracts, were they all dealt with in a similar manner?
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
And no issues were ever raised through that period of time that maybe this was not ethical or fair as far as issues of transparency go?
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As an Individual
No.
Just to add to the record, in 2004 I was nominated for the deputy minister's award at Consulting and Audit Canada.
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Did you ever receive any compensation for referring contracts to any particular individuals or companies?
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
If you weren't getting anything back on this situation, Mr. Brazeau, why would you have continued to operate in a way that clearly does not appear to be the most ethical way to do business?
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As an Individual
That's the way we operated at Consulting and Audit Canada. That was the box I operated in, like everybody else.
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Mr. Crupi, in the years that you were working in all these different departments, to get a reputation as being a procurement specialist, how many contracts would you have overseen or been a particular part of?