You have to manage your population, that's for sure.
Regionally, we manage the population. We have a regional management population committee, and on a regular basis, with the support of the security and intelligence officers, we'll gather information on the population and try to be sure that by putting different kinds of inmates together we won't create a bigger problem. So we manage that.
Also, locally, at the institutional level, you need to manage your population to make sure that you don't have too much incompatibility among offenders, and again, to use all sorts of strategies to reduce the level of segregation. Sometimes it's true that they are afraid, but sometimes they are afraid for bad reasons—because of perception of the population; because they don't know exactly how they will integrate—and you need to support them and to monitor that. That's why we have a peer program in Quebec in some institutions where other offenders will support the reintegration in the wing of the other offenders.
We cannot avoid segregation, but we truly need to monitor it.