Public Safety Committee on Nov. 29th, 2018

Evidence of meeting #141 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2018-19: Votes 1a and 5a under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1a under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1a under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1a under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1a and 5a under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1a under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1a under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1a, 5a and 10a under Royal

MPs speaking

Pierre Paul-Hus

Sven Spengemann

Also speaking

Angela Connidis Director General, Crime Prevention, Corrections and Criminal Justice Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Ruby Sahota Brampton North, Lib.

Luc Bisson Director, Strategic Policy, Correctional Service of Canada

Jim Eglinski Yellowhead, CPC

Juline Fresco Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Justice

Clerk of the Committee Mr. Olivier Champagne

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

All right.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Welcome to the committee, Mr. Blaikie.

I'm assuming you wish to move NDP-11.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

I do indeed, and I'm happy to motivate if you'd like me to do that.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I'm sorry?

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

I'm happy to motivate it if you'd like me to do that.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Motivate it?

November 29th, 2018 / 5:45 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

Yes.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Well, I'm always interested in motivation, but I hope your motivation is brief.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

Indeed.

This amendment essentially clarifies that time outside a cell proposed as an SIU would be a minimum, and that the service would have to actively increase time outside the cell wherever possible, as well as document that these opportunities outside of the minimum time are offered.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Is there any debate on NDP-11?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Again, in light of peace, order and good government and the personal safety of your chair, I am going to ask at 6:30 whether we should instruct the clerk to order food for the committee.

Liberal

Michel Picard Liberal Montarville, QC

That's tempting.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Yes.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Okay. At 6:30 we'll decide—

Yellowhead, CPC

Let's get this done.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Why are we waiting for 6:30?

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

We can order for 6:30 or at 6:30.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Let's order for 6:30

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I'd rather order at 6:30 or a quarter to seven.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

What is the food? Why do we have to wait until 6:30?

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Let's keep moving.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

You're here and you're complaining already, Mr. Saini.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

It's about logistics. I want to provide some order and good government to this committee.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Okay. We have LIB-4.2.

Go ahead, Ms. Sahota.

Liberal

Sven Spengemann Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Mr. Chair, Ms. Sahota had to leave, but I'll move it in her place.

Members have the amendment in front of them. The effect of this amendment is to essentially provide a clear definition of the other reasons or “prescribed circumstances” when opportunities for time outside of the cell or for interventions or programming may not be offered to inmates in a structured intervention unit.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Is there any debate?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

LIB-4.2 is adopted. Now we have NDP-12.

Go ahead, Mr. Blaikie.