Evidence of meeting #141 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Liberal
November 29th, 2018 / 6 p.m.
NDP
Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC
Thank you so much, and I appreciate all your patience with me.
One of the concerns we have is this is going to end up with a patchwork of review mechanisms. If the minister is really serious about establishing something else with a royal recommendation, reviews made through this process are unlikely to be considered independent, as defined in the B.C. court decision. I just want to make sure that.... That's one of the concerns we have.
6 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
From the officials, is there senior medical staff in each institution that fits this amendment?
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Director General, Crime Prevention, Corrections and Criminal Justice Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Yes.
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Liberal
Sven Spengemann Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
Mr. Chair, in reply to Ms. Blaney, the conversation we had earlier captured the fact that on November 27 the minister committed to the creation of an external review mechanism, which would address in part the concern you're raising.
6 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any further debate on LIB-5.2?
(Amendment agreed to[See Minutes of Proceedings])
PV-27 is deemed moved. Is there any debate?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Now we have LIB-5.3, in the name of Monsieur Picard.
6 p.m.
Liberal
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Okay. Is there any debate?
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
6:05 p.m.
Yellowhead, CPC
Could I have that read, please? I don't have it on my list here.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
It reads that Bill C-83, in clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 38 on page 7 with the following:
nation under paragraph 37.3(1)(b) that an inmate should remain in a structured intervention unit, the Commissioner shall, in accordance with the regulations made under paragraph 96(g), determine whether the inmate should remain in the unit. The Commissioner shall also make such a determination in the prescribed circumstances and every 30 days after the Commissioner's last determination under this section that the inmate should remain in the unit.
Now I did interrupt a vote to do that, and probably I shouldn't have, but nevertheless that's what we voted on. I believe we've taken the vote in favour.
6:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
There we are.
LIB-5.3 is adopted, so now we're on to PV-28, which is deemed moved.
Is there any debate?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We have LIB-5.4, in the name of Ms. Dabrusin.
6:05 p.m.
Liberal
6:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any debate?
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
PV-29 is deemed moved. Is there any debate?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings]))
Shall clause 10 as amended carry?
(Clause 10 as amended agreed to on division)
(Clauses 11-14 inclusive agreed to on division)
(On clause 15)
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Liberal
6:05 p.m.
NDP
Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC
Thank you all for your patience. I am new to this committee in doing this work. We want to make sure that we replace lines 6 to 10 on page 11 with the following:
lndigenous community means an organization, a community, a band, a tribal council
Sorry; am I in the wrong place?
6:05 p.m.
NDP
6:05 p.m.
NDP
Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC
Thank you again for your patience. It reads that Bill C-83, in Clause 15, be amended by adding after line 17 on page 9 the following:
48.2 No routine strip search of an inmate may be conducted if a body scan search is available.
We just know that this is much more effective, less invasive, and we think that if it's available, that it should be always the option.
6:05 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
Thank you, Chair.
I actually like the amendment, but I have concerns about someone who has a health condition, for example, and can't go into a body scan. I'm wondering if the officials could comment, and also if there was wording that would cover the situation if the offender is not able to go into a body scan or if they choose not to.
We're talking about NDP-14, right?
6:05 p.m.
Director General, Crime Prevention, Corrections and Criminal Justice Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Yes.
I think we'd need to spend a bit more time to think of accurate wording to reflect your concern. There are other issues to think about as well, in terms of the definition of “available” and what that means.
I hesitate to put wording on the floor right now.
