Evidence of meeting #141 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Okay. We have a super-duper subamendment. Let's just read back the....
Can you just do that one again, Pam?
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Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
Sure. It would replace “support persons” with “or an individual as identified by the inmate as a support person”.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I will read it from the beginning. It would say:
To enable inmates and their families, or an individual as identified by the inmate as a support person
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Okay, we'll just read it back into the record so that everybody knows what we're going to debate first.
Do you just want to read it again?
November 29th, 2018 / 7:05 p.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Olivier Champagne
Okay. It reads:
(b) to enable inmates and their families, or an individual as identified by the inmate as a support person, to understand
7:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Okay.
Is there any debate on the subamendment?
(Subamendment agreed to)
Now the debate moves to the amendment as amended.
Is there any debate on the amendment as amended?
(Amendment as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Shall clause 30 as amended pass?
7:05 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
On division.
(Clause 30 as amended agreed to on division)
(On clause 31)
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Okay. We're now onto clause 31.
That is LIB-6.1. It's standing in the name of Ms. Dabrusin, which I assume is Mr. Spengemann.
Mr. Spengemann, are you on for Ms. Dabrusin on LIB-6.1?
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Liberal
Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON
Why don't I just get along with it, then?
LIB-6.1 is an amendment that is really a consequential amendment to more explicitly and clearly reflect the regulation-making authority related to the structured intervention units and to update it with the health review committee. It aligns with the way the policy is supposed to work.
I'll leave it out there.
7:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any debate?
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We're on LIB-6.2, this standing in the name of Monsieur Picard.
7:05 p.m.
Liberal
Michel Picard Liberal Montarville, QC
This concerns terminology in the French version, clarifying the nature of searches.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any debate?
(Amendment agreed to[See Minutes of Proceedings])
We have CPC-3, standing in the name of Mr. Paul-Hus.
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Conservative
Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC
I turn the floor over to Mr. Eglinski.
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Yellowhead, CPC
Chair, I just move that we make an amendment that Bill C-83 in clause 31 be amended by adding after line 27 on page 14 the following:
(2.1) Paragraph 96(v) of the Act is replaced by the following:
(v) for the organization, training-including training related to mental health and to safety-discipline, efficiency, administration and good management of the Service;
This came to light when Stanley Stapleton was here, the national president of the Union of Safety and Justice Employees, who suggested that additional training was needed within the institution, especially with the new sorts of guidelines coming into place under section 83. We would like to add that the training become part of section 83.
7:10 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I think there's general agreement that additional training should be provided. There was $448 million to go into corrections in the last statement, but I don't think adding it into the legislation is the right way to get it done.
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Yellowhead, CPC
The act does not say the training needs to be done or that additional training needs to be done. That's what we're concerned with, because there are concerns within the organization.
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Liberal
Sven Spengemann Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
These are the kinds of levels of detail that are best captured in regulations.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any other debate?
(Amendment negatived)
We're on PV-42.
Go ahead, Ms. May.
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Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
PV-42 has the same rationale as my earlier amendment, PV-7, to ensure that the factors determining security classifications and subclassifications include that we consider the proximity to families when inmates are being moved, and that we consider their specific needs when an inmate has a mental illness or disorder, or a history of self-harming behaviour.
7:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any debate?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We're on CPC-4.
Go ahead, Mr. Motz.