Evidence of meeting #141 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Angela Connidis  Director General, Crime Prevention, Corrections and Criminal Justice Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Ruby Sahota  Brampton North, Lib.
Luc Bisson  Director, Strategic Policy, Correctional Service of Canada
Jim Eglinski  Yellowhead, CPC
Juline Fresco  Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Justice
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Olivier Champagne

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Shall clause 39 as amended carry?

(Clause 39 as amended agreed to on division)

(Clause 40 agreed to on division)

Now there are some amendments to create a new clause 40.1. The first amendment is CPC-5.

Go ahead, Mr. Motz.

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

From what we heard from witnesses, we all know that this bill is deeply flawed and poorly conceived. I think that despite having a lot of time to develop it, it was rushed at the last minute, which is why no one was consulted and why no one supports it.

Beyond that, given the minister's commitment is to get back to us on how this will work, how the money promised will be used—where it will go—and more suggestions that we blindly approve this bill, at the very minimum I believe it is beholden on us to put in a requirement that the minister, who said to trust him and that he'll let us know how the money's going to be used, does actually get back to us and tell us how that money is actually going to be used.

Specifically, this amendment requires the minister to provide the specifics on his SIUs—the physical requirements for the structures, which he told us would be different from segregations—the cost of meeting those requirements, and the schedule to implement those regulations. That's the gist of the amendment.

Michel, you would probably want the same thing if our minister were that blasé in his position. I would expect you to be.

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

Michel Picard Liberal Montarville, QC

I'm flattered that you think that of me.

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

I would. I would. I think you'd be awesome at it.

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Is there any debate?

7:20 p.m.

Yellowhead, CPC

Jim Eglinski

Is it unanimous?

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I don't think I called that vote, or I must have missed it.

7:20 p.m.

Yellowhead, CPC

Jim Eglinski

You didn't? I'm just trying to help you out. You're tired.

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

It's amazing how members are so helpful to the chair.

7:20 p.m.

Yellowhead, CPC

Jim Eglinski

It's Christmas time.

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

All right.

All those in favour, please so indicate.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The next one up is actually—

7:20 p.m.

Yellowhead, CPC

Jim Eglinski

Actually, I'm going to challenge you on that. There were only three hands up there.

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I don't know. I think I saw twitches.

7:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

7:20 p.m.

Yellowhead, CPC

Jim Eglinski

Oh, okay.

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

The next one we've numbered CPC-5.1, which is reference number 10222406. Again, it stands in the name of Mr. Motz.

Do you wish to move that?

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Yes.

I move that Bill C-83 be amended by adding after line 30 on page 16 the following new clause:

Report to Parliament

40.1 Six months after the day on which this section comes into force, the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness must assess each penitentiary to determine the changes that are required for the penitentiary to meet the physical requirements established under this Act.

(2) The Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness must cause a report of the assessments to be laid before each of House of Parliament on any of the first 30 days on which that House is sitting after the day on which the report is completed.

I guess it's pretty self-explanatory.

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Okay.

Is there any debate?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

7:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Next is CPC-6.

Go ahead, Mr. Motz.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

I won't read it. This is that the commissioner is required to conduct a review of the SIUs implemented in this act in three years, and provide that report to the minister and to the correctional investigator. The minister will cause that report to be tabled in the House of Commons no later than 30 sitting days after its receipt. It's specific to the review of the SIUs.

7:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Is there any debate? No.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we have LIB-7, standing in the name of Ms. Damoff.

7:25 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I think it's pretty self-explanatory. There will be a review after five years.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

I think we had [Inaudible—Editor] in mind.

7:25 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Sorry, Chair, we're engaging in banter here.

7:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Banter is not debate, Mr. Motz.