Evidence of meeting #141 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
I just want to get clarification from the officials.
If I heard you correctly, you're suggesting that the language currently in the bill provides for a lot more flexibility. It's still allowing the inmate to receive the time that the bill sets out for being outside their cell and for activities, but prescribing a time may not be necessary, given the flexibility that already exists in the current language. Is that what I heard you suggest?
November 29th, 2018 / 5:20 p.m.
Director, Strategic Policy, Correctional Service of Canada
What I was answering was the question around whether “reasonable” would be required to factor in exceptions, and my comment was that exceptions are already factored in in the bill.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
I'm referring specifically to time, not to “reasonable”. I'm referring to the time.
5:20 p.m.
Director, Strategic Policy, Correctional Service of Canada
The time does add more clarity in terms of when these opportunities need to be offered, so it is consistent with the intent.
5:20 p.m.
Director General, Crime Prevention, Corrections and Criminal Justice Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
That's in proposed subsection 37(1) of Bill C-83.
5:20 p.m.
Director General, Crime Prevention, Corrections and Criminal Justice Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
It's on page 5.
5:20 p.m.
Yellowhead, CPC
I'm sorry. I don't interpret it the same way you do. It says there are exceptions, proposed paragraphs 36(1)(a) and 36(1)(b).
5:20 p.m.
Director General, Crime Prevention, Corrections and Criminal Justice Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Then proposed paragraph 37(1)(c) on the next page suggests “in the prescribed circumstances”, and that could include a situation as was described before.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any further debate?
The vote will first of all be on the subamendment. Is everybody clear here as to where “reasonable” will be inserted two times?
5:20 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Those in favour of the subamendment, please indicate.
(Subamendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We will go to the vote on the main amendment.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings]
LIB-4.1 passes; therefore, PV-18 cannot be moved.
5:20 p.m.
NDP
Matthew Dubé NDP Beloeil—Chambly, QC
I forget if it's only when you rule it inadmissible.... If PV-18 can't be moved, we can't speak to it. Is that right?
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
That's right.
We go on to PV-19. It's deemed moved. Does anybody want to do their representation of Ms. May? That's almost an impossibility.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We go on to NDP-10. Go ahead, Mr. Dubé.
5:20 p.m.
NDP
Matthew Dubé NDP Beloeil—Chambly, QC
Here we are again with the reasonableness, Chair. This amendment reads that Bill C-83, in clause 10, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 5 the following:
(1.1) The opportunity referred to in paragraph (l)(a) or (b)
(a) shall be reasonable;
(b) shall, to the extent possible, take into consideration the offender' s choice of activities; and
(c) shall not be a form of punishment.
(Amendment negatived)
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
We have a late amendment by Mr. Motz, and that is CPC-2.31.
Does everybody have that? We're getting it now. These are literally late amendments, which of course was unintentional on the part of Mr. Motz.
5:25 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
Yes.
Perhaps I could speak to this, Mr. Chair. There is no language currently, so I move that we consider adding after line 15 on page 6 the following language:
37.11 A staff member may recommend to a registered health care professional—
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
5:25 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
You went that way. Okay, let me go ahead. I'll move backwards then.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
We are on page 39.1, CPC-2.31. We are adding after line 21on page 5, and Mr. Motz is moving it.
There are two amendments.
5:25 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
There are two. There is one that you just mentioned and there's one that I just started.
