Evidence of meeting #141 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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6:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Clause 23 passes on division.
(Clause 23 as amended agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(On clause 24)
6:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
We're now on to clause 24, and amendment NDP-18 has been dealt with.
We're now on to amendment PV-33, with Ms. May.
6:45 p.m.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
This is the same point that was being made in my previous amendment, PV-30. It deals with the definitions of “indigenous community” and “indigenous organization” as opposed to “aboriginal community”.
6:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there debate?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Shall clause 24 carry?
(Clause 24 agreed to on division)
(On clause 25)
6:50 p.m.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
This is to establish an advisory committee. It's a proposal from Senator Kim Pate that the minister shall establish a national indigenous advisory committee. The minister establishes it instead of the Correctional Service of Canada.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I appreciate the intent behind it. I think that it's important that there is arm's length in creating these advisory committees. When you're asking for the minister to do, it you're bringing in a political aspect. I don't think that's a good idea.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any further debate?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
NDP-19 has already been dealt with.
We are now on to LIB-6.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
This addresses concerns that we heard about elders and spiritual leaders being.... It's that the Correctional Service of Canada needs to seek advice when it's making decisions. In particular, it was the NWAC that recommended that we integrate spiritual leaders into the health care, but this is also important in a variety of places in corrections.
This will address that. When appropriate, or if CSC determines that it's appropriate, it will seek advice from an indigenous spiritual leader or elder.
6:50 p.m.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
I just want to note that I think that if this passes—and I hope it will pass—my amendment.... I don't know if the clerk has pointed this out, but I would interpret my amendment PV-35 as being substantially the same. I would hope that this does pass. I think that it is something that came up in testimony, and it will be very useful.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
6:50 p.m.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
I'm not allowed to withdraw my amendments because I'm not a member of this committee. I'm only here because you passed the dreadful motion that I continue to hate. However, I have no role here to remove my own amendments. They are deemed moved. However, I wouldn't mind if you passed Pam's amendment, which is really good. Then you don't have to talk about mine and hear me complain yet again about the fact that the smallest party in the House is continually punished by the largest party in the House.
Thank you very much.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
No, I wouldn't want to hear that again. You're right.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
PV-35 is on the floor, notwithstanding the comments that the mover made. May I assume that there is no debate?
6:50 p.m.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
If the clerk hasn't removed it, it's because the insertion of “their own elder” is in here as a possibility. That's the distinguishing feature between the amendment that you just passed and PV-35. I think they're both really great.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
I wouldn't presume to comment on the clerk.
Is there any debate?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We are now on to PV-36.
6:50 p.m.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
This has the same rationale, Mr. Chair, as previous motions to deal with the difference between indigenous and aboriginal, so it has the same rationale as my two previous amendments on that point.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any debate? No.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Shall clause 25 as amended carry?
(Clause 25 as amended agreed to on division)
(On clause 26)
Now we have PV-37.
6:50 p.m.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
This is an amendment to ensure that the non-registered health care professionals to whom a registered health care professional has delegated tasks must be under ongoing supervision. This is based on research from the Library of Parliament that was entered before the committee: that non-registered, unregistered, unlicensed health care providers who deliver services require more supervision than they are currently receiving.
6:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any debate?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We have NDP-20 and Ms. Blaney.
6:55 p.m.
NDP
Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC
Thank you again.
This one is again making sure that services provided are done in a cultural and spiritual way and provided by indigenous spiritual leaders or elders.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
6:55 p.m.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
In the same vein as my previous amendment, this amendment provides a definition for supervision so that when we're talking about the supervision of a non-registered health care professional, we're able to ensure that supervision meets a standard of direction, support, guidance, evaluation and follow-up.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
