Public Safety Committee on Dec. 14th, 2021

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

Okay. Are there other comments about the first amendment?

[The Clerk]

Ms. Dancho would like to speak, sir.

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

Go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'm wondering, Ms. Damoff, if we have the track changes. I'm not sure. I'm not clear if—

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

I have them in English but not in French.

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

Okay. I don't think we have either. I'm not seeing where the changes are made in here, unless I'm not looking at the right document.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

Can I distribute the English?

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

Do you have an extra document?

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

Has the staff distributed these track changes to members?

[The Clerk]

The document that was provided by Ms. Damoff was distributed. It did not contain the track changes, as far as I understand.

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

On a point of order, go ahead, Mr. McKinnon.

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

If Ms. Damoff were to read the amendment, it might be helpful.

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

That's fine, but as a matter of good practice moving forward, when there are amendments in front of the committee, track changes should be printed and put in front of members of the committee. Can we note that? Since that's not the case now, the next best thing would be for Ms. Damoff to read the substance of the amendment.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

Mr. Chair, I think I have it in both official languages, but it does not show up on my phone. How do I send it to the clerk? If you could give that to my staff, they could forward it to you. They're right here.

In the meantime, the first change I want is to delete clause (a) of the motion. We would be deleting the line that says:

(a) hold, by December 17, 2021, at least one (1) additional meeting to hear from Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials for a duration of three (3) hours;

That clause would be deleted, and that's what we're voting on now. The reason for doing it is that I propose adding the RCMP to clause (b).

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

Is that clear to all members of the committee? Are there any other comments before I ask for a vote on that first amendment?

[The Clerk]

Sir, Ms. Dancho has raised her hand.

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

Go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would just like to hear from our Bloc committee member's thoughts on this amendment. Is she supportive? Is this something that she feels will achieve the outcome she is desiring with her motion? I would appreciate her feedback.

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

Go ahead, Madame Michaud.

[Kristina Michaud, Bloc, Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Dancho, for the opportunity.

I quite liked Ms. Damoff's point that it will be possible to delineate what is under the control of the RCMP and what is under the control of the Canada Border Services Agency. I think it's a good idea to have them in together. We just need to clarify that we are sure we have three hours for both organizations. I agree with that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

Fair enough. Good.

Are there any other comments on the first proposed amendment?

Go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

I'm just wondering how this would impact.... I know that we were talking about a Friday meeting with the RCMP. Is that in the works? If this is passed, will we not be able to see the RCMP on Friday?

[The Chair, Liberal, Jim Carr]

You mean Thursday.

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

I think Thursday we were supposed to meet with the minister, and I think we were in discussions for a potential meeting on Friday. We were hoping to hear about that today.