Evidence of meeting #2 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
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Conservative
Tako Van Popta Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
Otherwise we'd vote on the original motion without the amendment.
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Liberal
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The Clerk
The subamendment is first.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
It's on the subamendment. Why don't we do that? I don't think we have unanimous consent, or did I miss something?
Do we have unanimous consent for the subamendment?
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Liberal
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Okay. Just for clarity, we don't have unanimous consent. We have Madame Michaud voting against and the other members of the committee voting in favour. Is that correct?
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Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
In the end, it does not matter, because I will vote against the amended amendment. So there can be unanimous consent to amend Ms. Damoff's amendment. It is complicated, but do we understand each other?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Yes, I do.
Clerk, did you want to add something here? No.
We have unanimous consent to approve the subamendment and now we have in front of us the amendment. We have had a discussion on it.
Is there any further commentary that members of the committee want to offer at this stage before we put the amendment to a vote?
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Conservative
Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB
Mr. Chair, I have a subamendment to move on the now-amended amendment. I believe the subamendment I'm proposing will capture a bit of the spirit of the original motion from the House. That is my aim. It's just to strengthen some of the language so that our aims of the original motion are clear.
Under (i), I propose “all the ways that firearms are illegally diverted, including smuggling across the United States border and domestic diversion”.
I'm just adding in the additional emphasis that was implied in the original motion from the Bloc.
Then under what was previously (iv), which I guess is now (ii), I propose crossing out the word “recognizing”, because I believe this depreciates the importance of the gang issue. The version of paragraph (ii) that I propose would read as follows: “the increasing involvement of gangs and firearms, the review of the programs that address the causes of youth gang involvement, programs that prevent recruitment and retention and diversion, and the causes of high recidivism rates”.
The reason for that last addition is that we know gang members are often repeat offenders who commit gun violence over and over again. I think that brings more emphasis and seriousness to the gang focus the Bloc had originally.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Again, there's the issue of whether members have printed copies of this proposed subamendment, or they are just—
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Conservative
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Conservative
Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB
I don't have the subamendment printed because we did not receive the amendment prior to this meeting. There wouldn't be a way that we could have done that, because we were not given the opportunity to review this before the committee began. I would ask that you proceed with my subamendment.
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Liberal
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The Clerk
It is Mr. MacGregor's.
