Evidence of meeting #53 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was firearm.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Murray Smith  Technical Specialist, Canadian Firearms Program, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Rob Daly  Director, Strategic Policy, Canadian Firearms Program, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Paula Clarke  Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Phaedra Glushek  Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Thank you, Mr. Motz. I appreciate that. Yes, I have learned, as I'm sure many of us have. I've also learned that you're not going to go hunting with me and Mr. Shipley, and that's totally okay.

I think it's important for us to have, similar to what you've said.... Many of us—those of us who don't have the extensive experience that Mr. Motz has with firearms—have taken the time to review and be able to learn through this process. I think what you have done today, and what we may have to continue next week, is to provide those who have been misinformed a little bit of the very important context that you have given us today.

I want to acknowledge that the Prime Minister and others have taken the effort to try to clarify some of this. We have said from the outset that we are committed to trying to improve this legislation—

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, that's incorrect. From the outset, they said that these are weapons of war that should be banned. Just to be clear, that's on the record from when it was introduced.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

That's not a point of order, so we'll let Mr. Noormohamed finish.

I'm going to have to cut you off in seconds here in any case.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

As I have said, and despite what others may think—and I've had this conversation with many on this committee—we are looking to make this good legislation even better. There is an openness, a willingness and a desire to ensure that not only do we hear from voices that may not have been heard but also from others, to work together to try to do this. This is being done to help keep Canadians safe, to ensure that hunters' rights are protected, to ensure that farmers' rights are protected, to ensure that indigenous communities are not affected, but most importantly, to ensure that we are keeping Canadian families safer.

Mr. Chair, I know I'm probably running out of time.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

You are out of time.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

I'm going to pause and turn it back to you.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you. We'll pause your time there.

I want start by saying how much in awe I am of Mr. Smith's encyclopaedic knowledge of firearms.

1 p.m.

Voices

Hear, hear!

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

It's thoroughly amazing.

I don't know about you guys, but I think we've had a crash course in firearms. We could probably challenge the exam for a PAL ourselves after this. I don't know if the rules would allow that.

Anyway, thank you all for joining us once again today. We will resume this debate when we next sit on clause-by-clause.

With that, we are adjourned.