Evidence of meeting #68 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was commission.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Randall Koops  Director General, International Border Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Commissioner Bryan Larkin  Deputy Commissioner, Specialized Policing Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Alfredo Bangloy  Assistant Commissioner and Professional Responsibility Officer, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

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Director General, International Border Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Randall Koops

There are 3,000 to 4,000 complaints a year internally at CBSA. Those are prepandemic travel numbers.

We looked at what scaling up the commission to handle roughly that volume of complaints about CBSA might look like, and then, in working with the central agencies of the Department of Finance and Treasury Board, we began to establish what the organization would look like and what its needs would be.

That went through the federal budget process, and the finance minister, in the budget, announced the global sum of $112.3 million over six years for the implementation of the project as a whole. The next step of how much of that money goes to the commission versus how much goes to the RCMP or CBSA comes through the estimates process, through the main or supplementary estimates, when the government seeks to appropriate the money for the new organization.

There are other means available, when necessary, to top up the operating budget of the organization. The government, in the past, made funds available to the CRCC when it required funds, for example, through the program integrity exercise.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I have a final, very brief question. Thank you, Mr. Chair. You're being very patient.

Is it based on an evaluation of somewhere between 5,500-6,000 complaints annually?

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Director General, International Border Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Randall Koops

It's roughly that number, yes.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you, Mr. Julian.

That wraps up our round one. We have a hard stop at six. I'm wondering if it's the will of the committee to adjourn at this point or have a quick round of one minute per party.

No? Is it the will of the committee to adjourn?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you to all our witnesses for putting up with us. I'm sure we're going to see you down the road when we get to clause-by-clause. I appreciate your time and your testimony today.

We are now adjourned.