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Evidence of meeting #2 for Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure in the 42nd Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Laura Munn-Rivard  Committee Researcher

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

What about Statistics Canada?

3:50 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Laura Munn-Rivard

I only added Statistics Canada because they can speak to the importance of data that's disaggregated based on gender, which in turn informs gender-based analysis. I don't know if they have any particular strategies for that.

Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB

That's the part that we're trying to identify. If they don't have strategies, we also want that to come out in the report.

3:50 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Laura Munn-Rivard

That's true.

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I don't know that we need an hour of Finance.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Did we decide we need Statistics Canada, or did we decide we don't need them?

3:50 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Laura Munn-Rivard

It's up to the members.

Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Here's are thoughts on StatsCan.

If the research isn't done for the questions we have, if it's not available, that does identify gaps. Isn't that part of the intention of the report, to identify recommendations, or research how it could be or where it should be collected?

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

You think we should have them.

Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB

I do.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

So Public Works and Government Services, Statistics Canada....

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Again, I don't know that we need two hours with just those two agencies.

Sheila Malcolmson NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Let's maybe go further down the list and see if there are others that we think we can bundle.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Let's go to meeting five, academic experts.

Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Before we go any further, can we look at items C and D?

If we're looking at those, because we're trying to do this in six sessions, if it's a possibility, maybe we could combine them. We have the Privy Council, Treasury Board, and Finance in one hour, and then in the second hour are Public Works and StatsCan.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Why don't we finish the list, and then try to figure out how to squish them into six, because there were two different reasons we chose them. The first two in meeting three were respondents to the AG, and then we wanted the Department of Finance to talk about gender-responsive funding. It was a different topic. We'll come back to it.

On academic experts, do we want to see all these people? These are excellent suggestions from the analyst. Do we want to see them?

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Do we need all three from the expert panel on accountability mechanisms for gender equality? They're all from the same panel, right?

3:55 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Laura Munn-Rivard

They're all part of the same panel. During the study on gender-responsive budgeting by this committee, they invited two of the three, or at least two of the three appeared. Maybe they invited all three, I don't know.

Because each of these women bring different backgrounds and have gone on to do different things, I put them down. You could always just invite, for example, the former chair, and cut it down in that way. These were just names that were taken from past reports of this committee, and they spoke in the report about gender-based analysis.

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Did they speak on different things, Laura, or were they all speaking on the same?

3:55 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Laura Munn-Rivard

They brought a lot of the same ideas.

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Then I would suggest we just go with one of them.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Yes, try to get the chair. If she's not available, then go with one of the other ones.

3:55 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Laura Munn-Rivard

Yes. The other two could be backups for the chair if the chair is not available.

Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Are there other experts or academics that we could suggest?

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

There are, actually, but they weren't on the list. We were talking about that because the policy and research organizations tie into the academics and experts as well, right? There's someone at Carleton. There's a centre for women in politics at Carleton University. It just depends on how many of these outside experts we want to bring in on this.

I would like examples from other jurisdictions. I know that I'm jumping ahead, but if I were going to cut some out, it would probably be in the policy, research, diversity practices, and business section, to condense that down.