Evidence of meeting #38 for Veterans Affairs in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was peacekeepers.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ron Griffis  National President, Canadian Association of Veterans in United Nations Peacekeeping
Colonel  Retired) Donald S. Ethell (Honorary President, Gulf War Veterans Association of Canada
Ray Kokkonen  National Vice-President, Canadian Peacekeeping Veterans Association
Gerry Wharton  Honorary Dominion President, Army, Navy and Airforce Veterans in Canada
Jack Frost  Dominion President, Royal Canadian Legion
Marc Toupin  Legislative Clerk, House of Commons
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger

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NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

Is the title of the bill “National Peacekeepers' Day” or “National Peacekeeping Day”?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

It's “Peacekeepers'”.

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NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

Very good.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

Shall clause 1 as amended carry?

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Bloc

Gilles-A. Perron Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Peacekeepers.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

Yes.

(Clause 1 as amended agreed to)

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Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

Is that clause 1 in the preamble we're talking about at this moment?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

That was the title.

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Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

Okay.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

Now we're into the preamble.

What's the easiest way to handle this?

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Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Marc Toupin

I think I heard what the member said. I can read the first paragraph, if that would be helpful.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

Sure.

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Liberal

Brent St. Denis Liberal Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

Let's get down to the change.

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Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Marc Toupin

The first paragraph in the preamble would read as follows:

WHEREAS in 1956 the Minister of External Affairs, the Right Honourable Lester B. Pearson, proposed the first United Nations peacekeeping mission and, since that time, Canada has been a leader in keeping the peace around the world, with more than one hundred thousand members of the Canadian Forces participating in peacekeeping and peace support operations--

--instead of missions--

--along with many members of the Canadian police services, diplomats and civilians;

Would that capture what the members want to do?

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Conservative

Betty Hinton Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

Thank you.

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Bloc

Gilles-A. Perron Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Can you say that in French, please?

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Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Marc Toupin

I don't have the French version. I don't know if anyone...

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NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

Mr. Chairman, may I just interject? If I'm not mistaken, he said the year 1956, and we heard today that the first peacekeeper died in 1951. I'm not married to it, but is that a concern to anybody?

He said “died in 1951”.

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Conservative

Betty Hinton Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

I wish I had listened more carefully to the exact date.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

I'm going to defer to Mr. St. Denis on this.

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Liberal

Brent St. Denis Liberal Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

I understand that we had a casualty, kind of, in an unofficial.... Peacekeeping became official at the UN level, but it seems to me—and I'm no historian—that prior to that there were unofficial peacekeeping efforts, so there was a gentleman in Kashmir who died in 1951, which would have been those hazy days before there was official peacekeeping. So that's what I took it as, that 1956 was the official UN adoption of the principle of peacekeeping. But 1951 was the unofficial first....

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

I think, Mr. Stoffer, that if we were to convert it to 1951 we'd actually change the very nature of.... You couldn't word it.

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NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

Okay, no worries.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

Now to the French.

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Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Marc Toupin

In the French version, Mr. Perron, the preamble reads as follows:

In 1956 the Minister of External Affairs, the Right Honourable Lester B. Pearson, proposed the first United Nations peacekeeping mission, and, since that time, Canada has been a leader in keeping the peace around the world, with more than 100,000 members of the Canadian Forces participating in peacekeeping and peace-support missions along with many members of Canadian police services, diplomats and civilians;

Instead of the word “missions”, we would use the word “operations” and add the words “diplomats and civilians”. I presume that you would also want to amend the second and third paragraphs of the preamble to include “peacekeepers”, followed by the words “Casques bleus” in quotation marks.

Although I'm not sure of this, I believe, Mr. Perron, that it would normally appear in parentheses.