House of Commons Hansard #53 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was investments.

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Financial Statement of Minister of Finance Members debate the government's budgetary policy. Conservatives criticize high deficits, inflation, and taxes, arguing it harms small businesses and affordability. Liberals defend generational investments in social programs, infrastructure, and defence, claiming it builds a stronger economy. The Bloc Québécois criticizes insufficient provincial transfers and continued oil subsidies. The NDP raises concerns about mental health and veterans' support. 14500 words, 2 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives heavily criticize the government's record spending and largest budget deficit outside of COVID. They argue this fuels inflation and unaffordability, leading to 2.2 million Canadians using food banks. They condemn the industrial carbon tax for raising food costs and the luxury tax cut for private jets, while highlighting massive interest payments.
The Liberals focus on the 67,000 new jobs created and promote Budget 2025 as building a strong economy. They highlight investments in housing, healthcare, Indigenous services, and the military, alongside tax cuts and initiatives to fight climate change and support francophone immigration.
The Bloc criticizes the government's budget for failing to meet Quebec's needs in areas like health care and housing, accusing Liberals of pandering to Conservatives instead. They also raise concerns about lobster smuggling and political interference in fisheries enforcement.
The Greens raise concerns about the growing ecological deficit due to inaction on climate and nature for future generations.
The NDP criticize the Liberal budget's climate plan for ignoring future generations and demand renewed funding for Indigenous friendship centres.

An Act to amend certain Acts in relation to survivor pension benefits First reading of Bill C-256. The bill aims to eliminate a "gold digger clause" denying survivor pension benefits to spouses of veterans and federal civil servants who married after age 60, described as "archaic" and "sexist." 400 words.

Petitions

Jail Not Bail Act Second reading of Bill C-242. The bill, C-242, aims to amend the Criminal Code to prioritize public safety in bail decisions, especially for repeat violent offenders. It proposes repealing the principle of restraint, expanding reverse onus, and tightening risk assessment. Conservatives support it for safer streets. Liberals call it constitutionally questionable and redundant, citing their own Bill C-14 as a responsible alternative. The Bloc Québécois raises constitutional principles and prison capacity concerns. 8300 words, 1 hour.

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Financial Statement of Minister of FinanceThe BudgetGovernment Orders

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The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

The hon. member for Cariboo—Prince George is rising on a point of order.

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Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Mr. Speaker, the Secretary of State for Rural Development left his seat and returned to his seat before the vote was tabulated.

Financial Statement of Minister of FinanceThe BudgetGovernment Orders

2 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

Unfortunately, the member's vote will not count because he left his seat.

The hon. Leader of the Government in the House of Commons is rising on the same point of order.

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Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Mr. Speaker, the member in question was—

Financial Statement of Minister of FinanceThe BudgetGovernment Orders

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

Financial Statement of Minister of FinanceThe BudgetGovernment Orders

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The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

I am giving the floor to the hon. government House leader.

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Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Mr. Speaker, the member in question was present. He momentarily lifted his body out of the seat for a second and returned to his seat immediately. He heard the question and cast his vote. I would ask the indulgence of members on the other side of the House to overlook this very brief, minor error.

Financial Statement of Minister of FinanceThe BudgetGovernment Orders

2 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

Financial Statement of Minister of FinanceThe BudgetGovernment Orders

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The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

There is no unanimous consent.

(The House divided on the amendment, which was negatived on the following division:)

Vote #49

The BudgetGovernment Orders

2 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

I declare the amendment defeated.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2 p.m.

Conservative

Arpan Khanna Conservative Oxford, ON

moved that Bill C-242, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Department of Justice Act, be read the second time and referred to a committee.

Mr. Speaker, it is always an honour to rise in the chamber to intervene on my private member's bill, the jail not bail act.

Before I dive into the topic at hand, I want to take a moment to honour the veterans. They are the brave men and women who served our country, who continue to serve and who have paid the ultimate sacrifice so that folks in the chamber could have healthy debate and fight for democracy, and so that Canadians can enjoy the freedoms we enjoy today. Next week, on the 11th, is Remembrance Day. I encourage all members of the public to please wear a poppy to honour their great legacy. We continue to pay tribute to their contributions to making Canada a free, true and prosperous nation.

When it comes to my jail not bail act, there are a lot of individuals and folks who I want to take the time to thank. There are those who helped draft the bill and those who came together to share their ideas. I am honoured that we have had elected officials from all walks of life, regardless of political—

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

I have to interrupt the member for a moment. There is a lot of noise in the chamber. Members are still having discussions while a member is speaking to his private member's bill. The clock has stopped, so I assure the member he will have his full time.

I invite all members to leave the House if they are having side conversations, so the member and the business of the House can continue.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2:05 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, I am not very far from the hon. colleague, and I could not hear. Therefore, I am asking for this member to be able to start over in speaking to his private member's bill.

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2:05 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

We will start the clock at the beginning so that the member gets the full time. I could not even hear much of it. I will allow the member to begin his speech to his private member's bill.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arpan Khanna Conservative Oxford, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is always a great honour to stand in this chamber to discuss such an important piece of legislation.

Before I dive right into Bill C-242, the jail not bail act, I would like to take a moment to reflect on and thank our veterans: those who have served and have paid the ultimate sacrifice and those brave men and women who continue to serve today for the freedoms that we have and we enjoy, even in this chamber, to have healthy debates and discussions and to make sure that Canada always remains a true, strong democracy. I encourage all members of the public and all hon. members to please wear a poppy. That is the least we can do. It is not a political symbol; it is an important task to honour those who have done so much for our freedoms.

It is always an honour to rise to speak to Bill C-242, the jail not bail act. I want to start by thanking the many individuals who have come together to make this piece of legislation possible.

I want to thank all those from different political parties and from various levels of government who shared their expertise, including municipal leaders, mayors, local councillors and MLAs. I thank first responders, who risk their lives every single day running to emergencies. Whether police officers, firefighters, paramedics or others, their input has been greatly valuable to me. I thank the Crown attorneys, who apply the law to defend the rights of Canadians, many of them from Oxford County, who shared their expertise when it comes to the bill.

I also thank the victims. It is very important for us to understand that the bill would put the rights of victims first because, at the end of the day, they should be the fundamental centrepiece of our justice system.

Locally from Oxford County, I want to give special thanks to our mayor, Jerry Acchione, from Woodstock. We have our Woodstock police chiefs from the Woodstock Police Service and some of their members who have helped me table the bill. I also thank various police associations from right across the country that were part of the consultations and put in letters of support for our bill.

In terms of community organizations, we have Cait Alexander, the founder of End Violence Everywhere; the One By One Movement; and the Oaks Revitalization movement, as well as Megan Walker, Debbie Henderson, C Trang, Scott Weller, Krissy Jennings and countless other victims and advocates who have shared their heartbreaking stories and who have asked us to bring the legislation forward so that Canadians can have safe streets again.

Those safe streets are not something that is so far out of reach. We can just think of a world where our kids could play on the streets and our seniors could go for a coffee with their friends and talk about the good old days, when parents could drop their kids off at school and not worry about their safety. It was a country where we had vibrant communities, and we were not watching our backs. Law enforcement personnel were motivated and had the support of this chamber and the Criminal Code, and they knew that if they did their job, after risking their lives, they would have somebody who backed them up to keep repeat violent offenders away.

Again, it does not seem like something out of a fantasy. We used to have this in Canada. We had safe streets. However, when the current Liberal government took office, it brought in legislation that has disrupted our country but has moved out of balance the rights of victims and prioritized the rights of criminals. We saw that with Bill C-75, when the Liberals brought in the principle of restraint, which I will talk about later on in my remarks. That principle literally told judges that they have to release the accused person at the earliest opportunity and on the least restrictive conditions. The Liberals brought in bills like Bill C-5, which took away mandatory minimum sentencing and allowed for house arrest for some of the most violent crimes that are happening in our community.

My colleagues and I have been touring and meeting with stakeholders right across our country. We have gone coast to coast to coast, from Yukon all the way out to the east coast. We have met with families and with victims, and their stories are at the heart of Bill C-242, the jail not bail act. Their stories have motivated us to put forward a piece of legislation after so many years on a file the Liberals ignored.

I want to share a story that I have shared in the past in this chamber. I know the Minister of Justice has also met this family, so I want to thank him for that.

Bailey McCourt, as many of us know, was killed by her ex-partner. Just three hours after he was released on bail, he found her in a public parking lot four kilometres away. He took a hammer and smashed her head. Her life is gone. She is gone. She is no longer with us today.

I spoke to the stranger who held her hand at that very moment. His life has now been affected by this as well. He cannot believe what happened that day. He has lost faith in our system.

Debbie Henderson and Bailey's stepmom came to Ottawa just last week to testify at committee. Debbie shared some more stories with us. Bailey was a caring mother. When her friends and family held a celebration of life for Bailey, her kids thought it was a party for their mom and that she would be coming back home. The kids think she is alive. The kids still believe today that their mom is coming back to them and that all those celebrations are for their mom.

What is hard is that crime shows us that it is not just the lives that are lost directly but the effect it has on everyone else, from immediate family and neighbours to strangers just walking down the street, whole communities and our country. Bailey could have been any one of us. She did everything right, but the system failed her.

We had the same problem in Peel. I was there for a town hall. Flo Bellman and Paul Henderson shared their daughter's story. It was very similar to what happened to Bailey. Their daughter, Darian, was attacked, again by her former partner. He was arrested, charged and released five times. After the fifth time, he took a gun and shot and killed Darian.

When we are at these town halls, we should look into the eyes of these parents. We should see the pain in their eyes and the tears flowing down their cheeks. The strength they show in sharing their stories is not because they know their loved ones could come back. It is because they are pleading for help. They do not want to see another daughter shot by a repeat offender. I am sure there are many parents in this House, and this could happen to any one of our kids.

When it comes to extortion, we have seen a massive rise right across our country. In Edmonton last year, there was a massive extortion case. Some developments were burned down, and shots were fired. The police did their job and arrested the individual, someone who was charged with such a magnitude of carnage. They arrested him, they brought him before a judge, and thanks to Liberal bail policies, he was released. As soon as he was released, he packed his bag, took a flight and left the country.

That is how easy it is for criminals to operate in our communities. The Liberal bail laws have had no deterrence. They invite this chaos to our country. I know the Liberals have brought forward Bill C-14. I do want to give them credit for one thing. They have finally admitted that their policies, and their failure to act, have caused this crime wave. It was in their own government news release that under their watch, there has been a massive spike of violent crime in our communities. I do give them credit for that.

Conservatives will always welcome any changes to the Criminal Code that protect families. It might be a step in the right direction, but it is not going to fix the problem. The Liberals are putting band-aids on gunshot wounds, when the wound has to be treated and fixed.

We have to make significant changes to the system. We cannot just do photo ops and hope the problem is going to go away. That is why our plan, the jail not bail act, is focused on making systematic changes to Liberal bail laws.

First, the principle of restraint that I spoke about earlier today, the principle that allows repeat violent offenders to be released on the least restrictive conditions at the earliest opportunity, has to be removed completely. It has to be gone. The Liberals, in their bill, are tinkering with it, adding some exceptions to the rule, but it still exists. It is still their fundamental, primary consideration when it comes to bail.

When I was sitting in bail court, watching proceedings to do research for my bill, I sat there for about 15 hours. Justices of the peace were quoting the principle of restraint and releasing offenders. Not one person was denied bail for being a repeat violent offender in the time that I watched that court.

My jail not bail act would repeal the principle of restraint, and it would introduce a principle of public safety as the primary consideration. This is where the Liberals did some copying and pasting, and I do admire that. I think sometimes being imitated is a great way to know that one is doing something right.

The bill would introduce something new called a major offences category. This would categorize some of the most extreme violent offences that we have seen in our communities, such as violent shootings, home invasions, violent carjackings, extortion, human trafficking and drug trafficking. Also, when someone attacks a first responder, irrespective of whether they are a police officer, a firefighter or a paramedic, that should be a serious offence requiring a serious look when it comes to bail.

We would make it a reverse onus. We would make sure it is on them to justify to a judge, a justice of peace or a peace officer why they should be released, not the other way around.

Furthermore, we would be tightening the risk assessment standard when it comes to bail. Right now, when it comes to assessing risk, the Liberals look at whether there is a substantial likelihood to reoffend. My bill would lower that threshold to look at reasonable foreseeability. Would a reasonable person believe that this accused person, based on their history and prior bail conditions, would be likely to reoffend? That change would lower the threshold. It would provide objective clarity to the test as well.

The bill would also make it mandatory in the Criminal Code for judges to look at someone's criminal history. We do not see that right now, so it would be codifying that aspect.

It would also make it tougher for repeat violent offenders, going after recidivism. If somebody has been convicted in the last 10 years for one of the major offences, was charged again and was out a third time, and then commits another offence, they should not be getting bail unless a superior court judge looks at their file.

We are also going to be collapsing bail post-sentencing for indictable offences. Bailey McCourt's killer was found guilty. He was guilty in the eyes of the law. He should not have been out on the streets. The next time somebody is found guilty of an indictable offence, they should not be released on bail until someone else looks at it, not just the regular courts.

The bill would make sure we do not have criminals who are vouching for other criminals as sureties. Can members believe that right now in our system, organized criminals can vouch for and be sureties for other criminals? That should not happen. If somebody is guilty of an indictable offence, they would be removed as a possible surety. I personally believe that someone needs to be of good standing or of good character to vouch for someone else, especially someone in their care.

Also, if someone who is not a Canadian citizen or permanent resident but a temporary resident commits an offence and is being charged, they must surrender their passport. We do not want any more flight risks like we saw happen in Edmonton. We will make sure there is annual reporting happening to Parliament. The stats are not there on a national level. We want to make sure there is accountability.

Safe streets should not be a fantasy in a faraway land. We should have them here in Canada. The jail not bail act would lock up repeat violent offenders and restore safe streets in our country once again.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Guillaume Deschênes-Thériault Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Mr. Speaker, when people propose amendments to the Criminal Code, they must approach the matter seriously and check that each of the proposed amendments is constitutionally sound. If a bill containing unconstitutional measures passes, it will be struck down in court. This wastes time and resources, and it disheartens Canadians.

On this side of the House, we have introduced Bill C‑14, which addresses public safety expectations and complies with the Constitution.

If my Conservative colleague's objective is really to improve safety in our communities, why is he trying to promote a redundant and constitutionally questionable bill, rather than help us move Bill C‑14 forward?

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2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arpan Khanna Conservative Oxford, ON

Mr. Speaker, our jail not bail act is fully constitutionally compliant. These targeted, reasonable, proportionate measures to change the Criminal Code go after a small number of repeat violent offenders. I am strongly confident that our bill is charter-compliant.

Speaking of charter-compliance, on this side of the House, we stand for the charter rights of victims and law-abiding Canadians, unlike what we saw recently with the decision of the Supreme Court, which removed minimum mandatory sentencing for child sexual offences. The government has stayed quiet.

On this side of the House, we will invoke the notwithstanding clause to ensure that law-abiding Canadians and children are kept safe.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2:20 p.m.

Bloc

Claude DeBellefeuille Bloc Beauharnois—Salaberry—Soulanges—Huntingdon, QC

Mr. Speaker, I understand that a losing a person who was murdered and then seeing the person who committed that crime get parole is a sensitive and emotional issue.

As my colleague knows, and as the facts bear out, a lot of people are currently being detained arbitrarily or while awaiting trial. Our prisons are filled with people awaiting the outcome of their trials. The solution proposed by our colleague could create a space shortage.

The question I want to ask my colleague is this. Has the time come to modernize the process and the various stages of parole? Is it not time to work on that very specific process?

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2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arpan Khanna Conservative Oxford, ON

Mr. Speaker, I agree. There is time for us to modernize our justice system, but it is important that we modernize our Criminal Code to defend the rights of law-abiding Canadians.

When it comes to our prison capacity, it is important for everyone to understand that this bill targets repeat violent offenders. To share some facts, in Kelowna, the same 15 individuals committed 1,500 crimes in a single year. In Vancouver, the same 40 committed 6,000 crimes in a single year. If we put away these repeat violent offenders, there will be less in and out happening in the criminal justice system.

Our job is to make sure we go after repeat violent offenders. As always, there will be a presumption of innocence, and we will let the courts do their work.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my hon. colleague for the work he has done on this bill.

I want to give him another opportunity to talk about something he mentioned in his intervention. He said that it is too late for the victims' loved ones, but they are not fighting for that. They are fighting for next family. They do not want another family to go through what they have gone through.

Perhaps he could share a further story on that.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arpan Khanna Conservative Oxford, ON

Mr. Speaker, we have all seen the stories. We have seen the headlines in the media, the social media posts and the cries for help. The headlines seem like they are from Hollywood movies.

Families get destroyed. Sometimes the person who is killed is the only income-earner. Sometimes they are the only person taking care of their kids. It is not only about the stories we want to share, but about the feelings and emotions that come with them. Bailey's family's lives are completely destroyed. They are not in a good spot right now. It is the same with other victims.

For Conservatives, the purpose of sharing these stories is for us to all wake up and know that we are in this chamber to keep Canadians safe. That is one of our top priorities. It is also to make sure the Criminal Code reflects those changes.

I thank all the victims who have courage, take a stand and share their stories. It is with their stories and efforts, when we are all united, that we can make change happen in our country.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jean Yip Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Speaker, across Canada our constituents, like mine in Scarborough—Agincourt, are voicing concerns about violent crime, repeat offending and the safety of their communities. These concerns are rooted in real experiences and in a desire to have a justice system that protects the public and upholds the rule of law. That is why I rise today to talk about Bill C-242, the jail not bail act, as part of a broader national conversation about how our bail system should function: how it can best manage risk, promote accountability and maintain confidence in the administration of justice.

Bill C-242, introduced by the hon. member for Oxford, proposes a number of amendments to the Criminal Code and the Department of Justice Act. Among other measures, the bill would expand reverse onus provisions for certain violent offences, restrict release by peace officers for major crimes and modify the standard at bail hearings for assessing risk.

Specifically, Bill C-242 seeks to make public protection a guiding principle in all bail decisions. It would expand the list of offences for which an accused must demonstrate why they should be released, adding a range of serious violent crimes to existing reverse onus provisions. It would also prevent individuals charged with major indictable offences, such as homicide, kidnapping or sexual assault, from being released by a peace officer following arrest.

In addition, the bill proposes that only a superior court judge would be able to determine bail for someone charged with a major offence while already on release for another, reflecting the heightened risks involved in repeat offending. The bill would also prohibit anyone convicted of an indictable offence in the past 10 years from acting as a surety, and it would require non-citizens to surrender their passport as a condition of release.

Finally, it would lower the threshold for assessing risk, changing the standard from a substantial likelihood of reoffending to what is reasonably foreseeable, and it would require explicit consideration of an accused person's criminal history when determining bail.

The bill's proposal to give paramount importance to public safety above other principles of bail deserves close scrutiny, and we are committed to doing that, but we cannot be reactive. We must strike the right balance.

By elevating public safety above all other factors, we risk overlooking cases where the accused does not pose a danger to the community but may present other risks, such as flight risk. In such circumstances, a narrow focus could paradoxically lead to the release of individuals who should remain in custody, while also eroding long-standing principles of bail. Moreover, public safety is already a well-established ground for detention under existing law, so it is unclear what additional value the proposal would actually add to the existing framework.

People in Canada expect their justice system to be firm, fair and focused on safety. They expect that individuals who pose a real threat to others will be dealt with decisively and that victims and communities will be protected. The government shares that commitment. The government has taken and will continue to take strong, targeted action to make Canada's bail system more responsive to the risks posed by repeat violent offenders.

In 2024, Parliament passed reforms that were supported unanimously by provinces and territories. These changes made it more difficult for individuals charged with serious violent offences, particularly those involving firearms or other weapons, to obtain bail. They addressed real concerns with community safety and responded directly to the concerns raised by police services and provincial and territorial leaders across the country.

At the same time, the government knows that supporting first responders is an essential part of ensuring community safety. Police officers, paramedics, firefighters, correctional officers and health care workers face violence and danger as part of their daily work. Through Bill C-3, Parliament took action to protect those who protect us. That legislation amended the Criminal Code to create tougher penalties for assaults against health care workers and first responders. It sent a clear and unequivocal message that violence against the people serving our communities is never acceptable.

Bill C-3 was also part of a broader approach that recognizes the complexity of these challenges. It strengthened the justice system not only through penalties but also through education and awareness, ensuring that our judges, law enforcement officers and service providers have the tools and the understanding they need in order to respond effectively.

However, the government's work did not stop there. Recently the Prime Minister announced that the government would bring forward new legislation to strengthen bail provisions for organized crime-related offences, including auto theft, home invasion and human trafficking. These measures are designed to address the kinds of high-risk, repeat behaviour that most undermine public safety and confidence.

As Parliament continues its study of Bill C-242 and other proposed reforms, it is important that our discussions remain grounded in evidence, guided by collaboration with provinces and territories and focused on the shared goal of keeping Canadians safe.

Public safety and public confidence depend not only on the laws we pass but also on how those laws are implemented, monitored and enforced. That is why the government continues to prioritize data collection, transparency and accountability in the bail system, so we can identify what works, close the gaps and ensure that the system delivers on its promise of protection and fairness.

Law enforcement remains on the front line of this effort. Police services across the country are adapting to increasingly complex cases involving firearms, organized crime and repeat violent behaviour. The federal government continues to work closely with police associations and provincial counterparts to ensure that officers have the legal tools and the operational resources they need in order to keep people in Canada safe. That co-operation is essential because public safety cannot be achieved in isolation; it requires co-ordination among all levels of government and clear communication among the courts, police and the communities they serve.

We must also recognize that public confidence in the criminal justice system is as much about visibility as it is about outcomes. People in Canada need to see that justice is being done, that bail decisions are informed by fact, that breaches are enforced and that high-risk offenders are monitored closely. Transparency in these processes helps restore trust, and trust is the foundation on which our entire justice system depends.

People in Canada deserve a justice system that reflects both firmness and fairness, one that distinguishes between people who can be safely managed in the community and those who cannot. They deserve to know that when someone poses a serious risk to public safety, the system will respond swiftly, decisively and effectively. That is the approach the government continues to take.

Through legislation such as Bill C-3, recent bail reforms and the Prime Minister's announcement on reforming the bail system, the government is acting to strengthen public safety while upholding the principles of justice that define this country.

Public safety will always be a top priority for the current government. People in Canada expect no less. As we consider proposals for reform, including the ones before us today, we must continue to work together to ensure that our laws remain strong, fair and effective in keeping our communities safe.

Bill C-242 Jail Not Bail ActPrivate Members' Business

2:35 p.m.

Bloc

Marie-Hélène Gaudreau Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Mr. Speaker, in a democracy, there are fundamental principles that distinguish true democratic regimes from states that merely claim to be democratic. The rule of law is based on rules, values and principles that are non-negotiable.

The current mood among certain political parties, thinkers and columnists seems to be more about vengeance in the justice system than true justice. It is sometimes more about seeking likes on social media than creating social peace, showing compassion and being thorough. The current mood criticizes dialogue, moderation and the search for balance. Looking at things in black or white pays off for some. Being nuanced and thoughtful is seen as an expression of weakness in society. I do not subscribe to that ideology. As I often say, I support democracy, justice and the law.

For years, the Conservative Party has been capitalizing on fear and criticism of judicial institutions. Its leader even makes dubious connections and disturbing conflations about the separation of powers. It is therefore no surprise that we are seeing the Conservative Party's desire to inject another dose of populism into our institutions with Bill C‑242.

The Bloc Québécois is committed to a number of principles. First and foremost, it believes in the presumption of innocence, the foundation of our justice system, which holds that all people are considered innocent until proven guilty. This principle is clearly set out in our charters, in paragraph 11(d) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and in section 33 of the Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms, or the Quebec charter. Section 33 states that “Every accused person is presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law.”

We must avoid any attempt to do otherwise at all costs. It is crucial that we not revert to a time when mob justice ruled, emotional outbursts held sway and justice was unfettered by clear, impartial and humane rules. Any breach, however small, could set a precedent and allow the risk of seeing our rule of law and justice system left violated and broken.

Democracy and the rule of law are based on a fragile balance between citizens' confidence in their institutions and the weight of popular will and reason. Our democracies are already under attack by harmful ideologies. All we have to do is look around us to see what is happening. Our responsibility as parliamentarians is to maintain this balance between respect for rights, confidence in institutions and public opinion. To do that, we need to be clear, we need to educate and we need to listen, not play petty populist games or use baseball analogies to talk about a subject as important as the law, justice and public safety. Our Conservative colleagues can keep repeating “three-strikes law” all they want, but it does not make this issue any less complex.

I would say to my colleagues in the official opposition that if they want clear and concrete proposals for fighting crime, they can adopt the Bloc Québécois's proposals. We propose creating a registry of criminal organizations, like the registry for terrorist organizations. This would make it easier to prove when a crime is committed for the benefit of a criminal organization. We also propose facilitating the seizure of assets by reversing the burden of proof to prevent the dissipation of assets when an individual belonging to organized crime is arrested. We also propose prohibiting criminal organizations from parading their insignia. Currently, criminal organizations parade with impunity and promote their organization. Finally, we propose creating a specific offence to criminalize the recruitment of young people to commit crimes. This new tactic has become the modus operandi of organized crime. It ruins lives and families. We must crack down harder on those who abuse our young people.

Understandably, the Bloc Québécois will vote against the Conservative Party's populist bill. We will always choose being constructive and democratic over being populists. Our commitment to democracy has always been at the heart of our national project. We will always be committed to the independence of our institutions.

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November 7th, 2025 / 2:40 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Mr. Speaker, since the Liberals formed government in 2015, this country has had a steady and alarming increase in major crime. Violent crime is up 55%, homicides are up 29%, sex assaults are up 76%, firearms offences are up 131% and extortion is up a whopping 330%. The government’s tireless efforts to prioritize the rights and freedoms of the accused at the express expense of victim and community safety is the problem.

In 2019, the Liberal government initiated bail reform in this country by amending the Criminal Code to introduce the principle of restraint, which immediately instructed judges and justices of the peace to prioritize the release of the accused at the earliest opportunity and under the least restrictive conditions. Contrary to a false Liberal narrative, neither the Supreme Court decision in the Antic case nor its decision in the Zora case instructed the federal government to amend the Criminal Code to add the principle of restraint.

From the perspective of a former Crown attorney, the amendment meant that regardless of the nature of the charge committed by the accused and its impact on the community or victim; regardless of the accused's criminal record, which could show a pattern of breaching court orders or being found guilty of the same offence; and, most important, regardless of the number of prior bail orders the accused may already have been subjected to, the government instructed judges and justices to release the accused.

This was the origin of catch-and-release, which we now have in this country, where repeat violent criminals circulate through the justice system with regularity, offering up false promises of bail compliance.

In 2022, the government weakened the criminal justice system again and exposed Canadians to immense risks with the passage of Bill C-5. Notwithstanding the long-established position of the Supreme Court that mandatory minimum penalties do not necessarily violate the charter, the Liberal government repealed mandatory minimums for serious gun crimes and violent crimes and expanded house arrest for all drug offences and serious violent crimes.

In 2023, after hearing from numerous stakeholders regarding the stolen vehicle crisis, the Liberal government brought in Bill C-48, its second attempt at bail reform. A core feature of the bill was to introduce a number of new reverse onus provisions to gun offences and other serious violent offences. The key messaging was that this meant that violent repeat offenders would be detained and that the bill would contribute to the safety of Canadians. The opposite happened; the rising crime state clearly establishes that the bill failed miserably in achieving its goals.

Over the course of the last four-plus years, we have heard from premiers of all provinces and territories, police chiefs, presidents of police associations, mayors from across the country, and several victim advocacy groups, pleading for the government to exercise its number one priority: to keep Canadians safe and to implement immediate bail reform.

What was the response? David Lametti, the former minister of justice, proudly proclaimed that he did deliver bail reform. He was completely oblivious to the crime and chaos happening all around him. Lametti was later fired, and the government appointed Arif Virani. His first comments after his swearing-in were to remind Canadians that it was all in their heads that Canada is less safe. He too reminded Canadians that he delivered bail reform, through the passage of Bill C-48.

In the 45th Parliament, we have heard from the public safety minister that our Canadian bail system is sound and is working as it should. Later we heard from our justice minister, who blamed the provinces for the bail problems we have, and he said that Canada is not the Wild West. That was on the very same weekend when there were violent home invasions that led to the deaths of homeowners.

Canadians and our stakeholders could not wait any longer. A recent Abacus poll conducted this past September showed that 79% of Canadians felt that it is too easy for serious offenders to get bail. That is precisely why my colleague from Oxford introduced the jail not bail act. I would like to take this opportunity to point out, notwithstanding the false narrative from the Liberals, that law enforcement unconditionally endorsed the bill as offering the best opportunity to rebalance the bail system to prioritize community safety over the release of repeat violent offenders.

What would the bill do? The principal feature would be to repeal the principle of restraint and replace it with the principle of public and community safety. The practical effect would be to end the default to release culture, which has created the bail crisis we have in this country. The priority is the safety of communities and victims, not the release of repeat violent offenders. This is a marked distinguishing feature of Bill C-14, which would still preserve, to various degrees, the principle of restraint.

The bill also creates a list of major offences that would trigger a presumption of detention, regardless of whether it would be a reverse onus charge. For major offences, peace officer release is unavailable.

The bill expands reverse onus to several violent offences, including firearms, sexual offences, kidnapping/trafficking, home invasion, break and enter, robbery, extortion and arson offences.

The bill adds surety and non-resident safeguards, which are completely absent in Bill C-14. It bars naming as surety anyone convicted of an indictable offence within 10 years. It also requires consideration of non-residency and flight risk, and it mandates passport denial for non-residents upon release.

Another significant feature of the jail not bail act is an adjustment to the risk threshold analysis under the secondary grounds for detention under section 515 of the Criminal Code. The current test is whether detention is necessary for the protection and safety of the public, including victims or witnesses, or to prevent the commission of a further criminal offence based on the substantial likelihood of such an event occurring. “Substantial likelihood” has been defined in case law as a real and significant probability of a particular outcome occurring. This was never viewed as an onerous test from Crown counsel; they often asked the justice to consider the criminal record of the accused and to look for patterns of conviction either for the same offence or a conviction for breaching a court order, such as bail, probation and conditional sentences.

The jail not bail act lowers that secondary ground threshold from “substantial likelihood” to “reasonable foreseeability” in assessing risk of reoffending or interference with justice.

We have all heard about the tragic yet preventable murder of Bailey McCourt, a young Kelowna mother who was bludgeoned to death by her ex-husband with a hammer in broad daylight. She was murdered the very same day, and within a few hours, of his being convicted of assault and uttering threats. He was released on bail pending sentencing, with the obvious condition that he not have contact with Bailey.

Bill C-242, the jail not bail act, provides for the expiry of the interim release of an accused upon their conviction of an indictable offence while they await sentencing. The finding of guilt by a justice expunges the presumption of innocence as guaranteed by the charter. This provision in the jail not bail act is simply common sense.

This country has long awaited real immediate bail reform. The Liberal government created the mess we find ourselves in. Do we now really expect it to provide the solution when it had the last 10 years to reverse course on its hug-a-thug mentality to exercising its number one priority, which is the safety of all Canadians? Law enforcement across this country has hailed the jail not bail act as the common-sense solution to keeping communities and victims safe while ensuring repeat violent criminals are kept in jail where they belong.

I urge all parliamentarians to set aside their political ideology and make it their priority to pass Bill C-242, the jail not bail act. As I have said numerous times inside and outside the House, and in town halls right across this country from coast to coast to coast, community and victim safety ought not to be a partisan exercise. Let us get this passed.