House of Commons Hansard #163 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was s-5.

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Connected Care for Canadians Act Second reading of Bill S-5. The bill requires health information technology vendors to adopt common standards and prohibits data blocking, aiming to let patients and authorized providers securely share medical records, improve care coordination and support research. Members broadly endorse interoperability but raise questions about privacy, cybersecurity, implementation costs, vendor oversight, innovation and provincial jurisdiction, particularly Quebec’s. Conservatives support the goal while calling for scrutiny of implementation and accountability; the Bloc opposes the bill without stronger protections for provincial authority. 36300 words, 4 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the government’s taxes and spending, warning of food affordability problems and rising debt. They challenge immigration levels and accounting, and repeatedly question the Prime Minister over a Telesat contract and potential conflicts of interest. They also raise concerns about government transparency, public safety and bail reform.
The Liberals promote Budget 2026 as a plan for affordability and investment, fiscal strength, housing and support for families. They defend immigration reforms, highlight clean-energy projects and Canadian sovereignty, and back major-project development, jobs and business productivity. They also defend the Prime Minister’s ethics and deny his involvement in Telesat decisions.
The Bloc opposes Bill C-39 over Indigenous rights, environmental protections and limits on striking. It also condemns oil companies’ record profits and government support for the fossil fuel industry, including a proposed pipeline and oil-and-gas tax deductions. (/debates/2026/11/5/mario-simard-10/)
The NDP call for affordability measures, including non-market housing, affordable groceries and better health care, and warn that AI data centres could raise electricity costs for families.

Financial Statement of Minister of Finance Members debate Budget 2026, which the Liberal government presents as a plan for economic growth, affordability, housing, sovereignty and cultural investment. Conservatives criticize its deficits, borrowing and accounting framework, while the Bloc raises concerns about Quebec’s health transfers, asylum costs and jurisdiction. The NDP questions spending priorities, and the Green Party and Bloc criticize climate measures. 13200 words, 2 hours.

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12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, I think I explained in some detail in my speech why I do support the objectives of this legislation and why it is particularly important in communities like ours, where the federal government has not provided enough health care infrastructure and health care support to be able to have access to those records when we have to travel between cities to receive care. On the principle side of things, I wonder what took the government so long. In terms of the operation, it is really important that, in committee, we make sure to get the provisions right so we do not have another Liberal health software boondoggle on our hands.

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12:10 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, again, I am going to recognize that what we are talking about is doctors, hospitals, institutions and pharmacists, all of which have records. Some provinces are much further advanced than other provinces. I think of the province of Ontario or of Quebec compared to my home province. Having legislation of this nature is ultimately in the best interest of all patients in all regions of the country.

I would like to get the member's thoughts on that issue.

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12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, I think we all know that sound travels more slowly than light, so sometimes it takes Ottawa longer to hear the needs of British Columbians. We are looking forward to seeing a time when those records are portable. I cannot say it more clearly than that. Let us get this right, though. Let us get it right, because it would save lives.

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12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jagsharan Singh Mahal Conservative Edmonton Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, today, I rise on behalf of the great people of Edmonton Southeast to discuss Bill S-5, the connected care for Canadians act.

No Canadian needs reminding of the challenges facing our health care system. On this side of the House, we believe Canadians deserve timely, world-class health care when they need it, regardless of their financial circumstances, yet too many Canadians are waiting for a family doctor, a specialist appointment or a procedure that would allow them to return to work and live without pain. Canadians need better care. In many cases, their lives depend on it. While provinces and territories are responsible for delivering health care, the federal government has a responsibility to work constructively with them to improve access and support better outcomes.

Bill S-5 presents an opportunity to address one part of this challenge, the difficulty of sharing health information between the professionals responsible for a patient's care. The principle of this legislation is common sense. However, much more work is needed to ensure that this bill would deliver meaningful improvements for patients.

In Alberta, we know that a gap in communication can have serious consequences. In 2012, Greg Price died at just 31 years of age. A subsequent inquiry found that poor communication between providers and breaks in the continuity of care contributed to his death. His family has since worked to ensure that others learn from their tragic experience.

More recently, tragedy struck closer to home. Last December, Prashant Sreekumar, a 44-year-old father of three, died at Grey Nuns Community Hospital in Edmonton Southeast after he waited nearly eight hours to see a doctor for chest pain. These cases involved different circumstances, and we should be careful not to suggest that one piece of legislation could have prevented everything that went wrong, but these stories demonstrate why this issue is important.

When patients are referred to specialists, they should know whether their referral has been received and who is responsible for following up. When important test results become available, those results must reach the right professionals and therefore be acted upon. A patient dealing with a serious illness should not have to chase records and coordinate communication between medical offices. That responsibility should not fall on a family already worried about the health of someone they love.

Bill S-5 would require health information technology vendors to ensure their systems can communicate with one another. It would also prohibit data blocking, subject to regulations. Put simply, a patient's information should be able to follow them securely through their care. A commercial interest in keeping customers tied to one software system should not prevent the appropriate sharing of information needed to treat a patient. It is a practical goal that Conservatives support.

According to the Canadian Institute for Health Information, in 2024, only 68% of hip replacement and 61% of knee replacements were completed within the recommended six-month benchmark. Median waits for MRI scans were also 15 days longer than they were in 2019. These delays have consequences. For a person waiting for knee replacement, it may mean months of difficulty in walking, working or caring for their family. For someone waiting for a scan, it can mean prolonged uncertainty about a potentially serious condition.

Better information sharing can help prevent unnecessary repeat tests and the delay caused by missing records, but connecting computer systems will not on its own add more doctors or create additional surgical capacity. Canadians need a broader effort to improve access. The government must explain how this legislation will contribute to that work and how its results will be measured.

We must also consider the people delivering care. Doctors enter medicine to help patients, yet too much of their working time is consumed by unnecessary administrative tasks. A joint survey by the Canadian Medical Association and the Canadian Federation of Independent Business estimated that physicians in Canada spend nearly 20 million hours each year on unnecessary administrative work. Disconnected records are only one part of that burden, but that is a part we should address. When clinic staff repeatedly request the same records or a physician must enter information already held in another system, valuable time is lost. That time could be used to see patients.

The question is whether Bill S-5 would make that work easier. Would referrals become simpler to track? Would doctors spend less time searching for results? Would small clinics receive the training and support needed to adopt new systems? We cannot promise less paperwork while creating another complicated process for doctors to manage. Frontline professionals must be involved in developing these requirements.

Furthermore, Canadians must have confidence that their personal health information is protected. Health records contains some of the most sensitive details of a person's life, including their mental health history, prescriptions and diagnoses. Patients share that information because they trust their health care providers. That trust must be maintained.

Protecting confidential information must not be confused with improperly withholding it for commercial reasons. During the Senate committee review, stakeholders recommended baseline security requirements for vendors, including encryption, strong authentication and records of who accesses information. These recommendations deserve serious consideration. Doctors should not be expected to become cybersecurity experts to determine whether a vendor's product is adequately protected. Vendors must have clear responsibilities for maintaining safeguards, and patients need clear answers about how their information can be used and what happens if it is compromised.

Finally, much of this legislation would depend on regulations developed after it were passed. These regulations would address standards, enforcement and the legislation's application within provinces and territories, which may also require careful examination. Provinces, health care professionals and patients deserve clarity about what would be required, what it would cost and who would be accountable.

Conservatives believe in health care that delivers for its patients, but ultimately what Canadians need are shorter wait times, reliable follow-ups, seamless information transfers, and doctors who have more time to practise medicine rather than working on endless paperwork.

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12:20 p.m.

Liberal

John-Paul Danko Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

Mr. Speaker, this important bill would be a big step forward for the medical system throughout Canada. It seems that doctors still send faxes, which is basically the equivalent of stapling a piece of paper to the back of a dinosaur. It is kind of crazy how backward the health system can be in Canada.

Among the IT interoperability, prohibiting data blocking, protecting access to health information and supporting virtual care, I wonder if there are any specific provisions in the bill that the member opposite sees as being the most helpful for the constituents in his riding.

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12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jagsharan Singh Mahal Conservative Edmonton Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, one thing I appreciate about the bill is that it is not too lengthy, but that does not mean it answers all the questions. We want to send it to committee for review so additional loopholes can be looked at. As recommended by the Senate review committee, more work can be done on it so clarity can be found, the paperwork can be reduced and the process can be streamlined.

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12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Harb Gill Conservative Windsor West, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is always a pleasure to rise on behalf of Windsor West.

Given boondoggles such as the $300-million PrescribeIT scandal that we have faced, how much confidence does my colleague have that this legislation would be able to deliver anything of value to the Canadian taxpayer?

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12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jagsharan Singh Mahal Conservative Edmonton Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, that is a really serious question. Given the track record of the government over the last 11 years, a lot of boondoggles have happened that failed to deliver any results needed or promised by the government. However, that does not mean we should not look at the positive side of this bill.

The death of Greg Price is a reminder for the government that, after 14 years, we are still figuring out how we can streamline the process so miscommunication cannot happen and tragedies like his cannot happen again, or can be controlled. I believe we still need to look at the bill from a positive angle, and all the positive suggestions should also be welcomed by the government.

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12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Eric St-Pierre Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Mr. Speaker, the member for Edmonton Southeast mentioned in his great speech that the Canadian Medical Association estimates that some 20 million hours are spent on administrative work. I agree with the member that excessive administrative time is often wasted and should probably be spent in other ways. I am curious as to whether the member can comment on how many of those 20 million hours could potentially be reduced through Bill S-5.

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12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Jagsharan Singh Mahal Conservative Edmonton Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, that is a more technical question that more statistical data could answer if the bill is adopted and royal assent is provided. However, before it gets to that stage, we still need to review how we could make this bill better so all these delays and the jargon could be avoided and streamlining could be established.

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12:25 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I am really encouraged by a number of the words the member has put on the record. I want to pick up on the point about saving lives. The legislation would do more than just save lives. It would also improve many people's current health conditions. Could the member expand on that point too?

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12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Jagsharan Singh Mahal Conservative Edmonton Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, it is part of the bigger challenge. It is one step towards it. All the professionals' having access to a patient's records is the right step towards streamlining the medical process and the delays that are in the process.

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12:25 p.m.

Yukon Yukon

Liberal

Brendan Hanley LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Northern and Arctic Affairs

Mr. Speaker, I will be sharing my time with the member for Québec Centre.

I am pleased to speak today to Bill S-5, the connected care for Canadians act, and its role in supporting a more connected health system.

Bill S-5 may seem rather technical, and indeed it is. However, I cannot emphasize enough how important this bill is for patients, physicians and indeed all cadres of health care professionals, for caregivers and for the people responsible for the planning and administering of our health care systems.

What is the bill about? Well, Bill S-5 would advance connected care by mandating the adoption of common data standards for health information technologies used across Canada. It would also prohibit data blocking, the practice of restricting access to health information for authorized users such as providers and patients, when privacy laws would otherwise permit it.

In other words, Bill S-5 will allow for the secure sharing of health information between patients and their health care professionals at the time and place that it is needed.

Data that is reliable, accurate and accessible saves lives, and the standards established by this bill would help make that possible. Research shows that patients who have access to their health information are better able to participate in treatment decisions, identify potential errors and manage chronic conditions more effectively. Improved access to health information would also support the more than four million Canadians who serve as informal caregivers in Canada. Today these individuals often devote countless hours to tracking down test results, coordinating records and repeating medical histories on behalf of their loved ones, often while balancing their own work, family and responsibilities.

When patients and their caregivers do not have access to their complete medical records, they finds ways to compensate. They rely on memory, keep physical records, take screen shots and repeat their medical history to every health care provider that they see. Canadians do this because the system does not do it for them. These are creative and ingenious solutions, but they are also time-consuming and stressful and they can lead to misdiagnosis, delays in care or worse.

Thirteen per cent of Canadians say their care was negatively affected due to poor information sharing between providers. The consequences can be profound, even tragic. Indeed, according to a recent physician survey conducted by the Canadian Medical Association, 92% of physicians reported that disconnected health systems, such as the inability to share patient records, test results and clinical notes, affected their ability to provide care. Two-thirds of those physicians say this happens often, highlighting the extent to which the lack of interoperability shapes day-to-day clinical practice. When providers do not have access to a patient's complete health history, they are forced to make decisions without the full clinical picture. This increases the risk of delayed care, misdiagnosis, adverse drug interactions and unsafe treatments.

Bill S-5 would enable a seamless and secure exchange of patient health information to support better collaboration among health care providers. For example, a family physician could securely share a patient summary with a specialist, helping support more timely assessments and better continuity of care. The bill would also strengthen team-based primary care, where timely information sharing is foundational to the way care is delivered. Similarly, for Canadians living with complex or chronic conditions and seeing multiple providers across multiple points of care, connected systems are a necessity. This is indeed true for Yukoners, who in many cases are in touch with providers across different jurisdictions.

Harms resulting from disconnected care are especially high for people travelling in Canada, whether from northern, rural and remote communities, across provincial and territorial borders for treatment, or simply for work or vacation. For example, an elderly individual became ill while visiting family in another province. Although antiviral treatment was recommended, it could not be provided, because the lab result required to confirm eligibility for treatment was trapped in the patient's provincial digital health system.

One service provider explained that, at a hospital in a border region, patients admitted from a neighbouring province are often seriously ill. However, because the provincial health systems are not connected, patients typically arrive with photocopied and incomplete medical records.

When systems cannot communicate, the result can be duplicated tests, delays in care, unnecessary costs, and frustration for patients and families. Bill S-5 would help bridge these gaps by mandating the standards that enable information sharing across the health care system. Importantly, disconnected data puts health care providers in the position of having to make clinical decisions with incomplete information. Bill S-5 would help to address this by enabling health care providers to access their patients' complete health care information in order to provide safe, high-quality care.

The purpose of the bill is to improve patient safety. However, patients are not the only ones who stand to benefit. Bill S‑5 also offers significant benefits to our valued health care professionals.

Interoperable health systems can help reduce administrative burden associated with charting, forms, sick notes and tracking down test results. Today, valuable time is spent manually entering data and copying information from one system to another, instead of spending time with patients. Artificial intelligence is already supporting providers by reducing repetitive administrative tasks and improving access to information, and its use will only expand.

However, these tools depend on reliable and connected data systems. Bill S-5 would help establish the secure data foundation needed to support that progress. For example, studies have found that physicians spend an average of 86 minutes a day searching for patient data due to a lack of interoperability. Now, 20 million physician hours are wasted annually on unnecessary administrative tasks. This unsustainable level of administrative work can lead to burnout, fatigue and low job satisfaction. Results from the CMA's 2025 national physician health survey showed that 46% of physicians and residents report high-level burnout.

Providers also mentioned the personal distress associated with the fear of making clinical decisions based on incomplete information. This affects their mental health, self-confidence, and ability to provide safe care.

Dr. Ewan Affleck, a physician who has spent most of his career in the north and is a leading Canadian expert in digital health information, likens running a health system without connected data to flying blind, which, in his own experience, has cost patients their lives.

To address this crisis, we must transition to working with digital health information within systems that can connect with one another. This will ensure consistent data transfer and reduce errors, which will help health care professionals provide high-quality care and, ultimately, improve patient safety.

Bill S-5 would also support the broader use of digital tools that help patients connect with their providers, including secure platforms for booking appointments, requesting prescription refills and communicating with their care team.

Transformation of any system requires investment. Whatever the cost it takes, the cost of inaction is likely to be far greater than the cost to do this work. As it is, we are already paying a staggering price for disconnected health data, estimated up to $9.4 billion annually. Beyond the financial cost, the consequences I have talked about today can hardly be measured in dollars but in patient safety, quality of care and the well-being of the health care providers who support them.

Bill S-5 is a technical bill but its purpose is straightforward: to connect data to prevent patient harm. Canadians turn to the health care system seeking care and relief. I would encourage my fellow members to join me in supporting the bill so that all Canadians can receive safe health care that is informed by accurate data and is accessible wherever and whenever decisions are made.

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12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly DeRidder Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

Mr. Speaker, I completely agree that data sharing is going to prevent harm. I am curious about the data sovereignty aspect of this. What has the government proposed to ensure that Canadians' health care data remains sovereign and protected through the legislation?

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12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Brendan Hanley Liberal Yukon, YT

Mr. Speaker, this is really all about supporting data sovereignty and interconnectivity at the same time that we support existing privacy protection. Authorized access remains governed by applicable privacy legislation. The bill is really about making information available when it is legally permitted to be shared and not expanding access beyond existing privacy rules. It is really helping to get that balance right, which is really all about data sovereignty.

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November 5th, 2026 / 12:35 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC

Mr. Speaker, my colleague's speech clearly reflected the concerns of an excellent physician from Yukon. We had the opportunity to serve together on the Standing Committee on Health.

The bill gives the minister the discretion to impose her intentions by order in council. When the pan-Canadian interoperability road map was announced, Quebec indicated that it would not be moving in that direction, while remaining open to the possibility of sharing information.

In keeping with what the Minister of Health said this morning about being determined to respect Quebec's jurisdiction, would my colleague be open to adding a preamble specifying that Quebec remains in control of its health policies?

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12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Brendan Hanley Liberal Yukon, YT

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his question, and I acknowledge the work we have previously done together on the Standing Committee on Health.

It is important to recognize that the territories and provinces remain responsible for delivering health care. Bill S-5 does not change anything. It sets common standards enabling different systems to communicate with one another. The goal is not to impose federal control, but rather to ensure that health care professionals have access to the information they need to safely care for patients.

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12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Eric St-Pierre Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Mr. Speaker, I have the benefit of being a member of Parliament in an urban riding, where I do hear about concerns around health data. Could the member talk a bit more about the Yukon, which represents a lot of rural and more disconnected communities?

What kind of impact would Bill S-5 have for members of his community in the Yukon?

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12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Brendan Hanley Liberal Yukon, YT

Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned throughout my speech, Bill S-5 is particularly relevant for more remote and northern rural settings, because so much of the health care depends on the interconnectivity of communities to referral centres. For example, Whitehorse hospital is the referral centre for the territory. It receives a lot of patients and a lot of calls from around the communities, but we also access care in British Columbia, in Alberta and sometimes in other jurisdictions. I cannot tell the House how many times I hear, either personally through my former career or from colleagues, about how the lack of interchangeability of data has affected patient care. I am really looking forward to the implementation of this bill and the subsequent actual interoperability of health systems.

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12:40 p.m.

Liberal

Jean-Yves Duclos Liberal Québec Centre, QC

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise and speak to the House on Bill S‑5, the connected care for Canadians act, and on the collaborative approach that we intend to use to implement it.

I would like to remind the House that the bill's objective is to establish a connected health care system, in other words, a system that provides fast, easy, reliable and secure access to health information for the people who need it.

To ensure fast, secure access, Bill S‑5 requires health information technology vendors to adopt technical and data-related standards and establish clear rules that prevent data blocking. By prohibiting harmful data-blocking practices, this bill will pave the way for health data networking, which offers considerable benefits for patients and professionals, not to mention its social, economic and, obviously, health benefits.

Data saves lives, and it also has the power to transform our health care system. However, our current health care system remains siloed, fragmenting care and putting patients at risk. As a result, 13% of Canadians say that the quality of their care has been compromised by a lack of communication between providers, and 8% report poorer health outcomes because their care team could not access the health information they needed. This situation obviously puts patients' lives and health at risk.

This becomes even more problematic when patients need to seek care in other provinces or territories. Take, for example, patients who rely on cross-border care, such as a truck driver with a chronic illness whose work takes him across provincial borders, a student at an educational institution outside their home province or even just a person who lives in either Gatineau or Ottawa and wants to receive treatment in one province or the other.

Canadians can experience real harm when their health care providers do not have timely access to the information that they need. A lack of connected data exposes patients to increased risks, including misdiagnosis, medication errors, delays in treatment and unsafe procedures. Health care providers regularly express frustration at being unable to access lab reports and results when they need them. Reliable access to this type of information is essential across the country so that health care providers are fully aware of a patient's medical situation when making urgent and often delicate clinical decisions.

This bill also supports research and innovation, which, as we know, lead to new treatments and which will obviously stimulate economic growth in a sector with a very bright future. That is why interoperability is not just about technology. It is a strategic issue that will make the health care system fairer, improve access and enhance its quality and viability.

As part of our efforts to improve access to health data and the sharing and use of such data, the Canadian government is working with the provinces, territories and key stakeholders to move forward and to implement pan-Canadian interoperability. Significant progress has been made to date.

The federal, provincial and territorial governments are working together, and have been for quite some time now, to implement a shared road map. Progress has already been made in Nova Scotia with the One Person One Record initiative and in New Brunswick with MyHealthNB. These collaborative efforts have improved patients' access to their health information, among other things.

However, the progress that has been made at the national level has been variable and inconsistent, and voluntary approaches have their limits. That is why it is essential to pass a law to help the provinces and territories, where appropriate, to harmonize the enforcement of standards and prevent data blocking so that everyone can benefit from health data interoperability.

To fully realize the benefits of interoperability, Bill S‑5 will be implemented and operationalized through regulations that will require health information technology vendors to meet a set of data sharing standards; prevent data blocking, which is the practice of preventing authorized users like patients and health care providers from accessing health data when they need it; and establish a system of administrative monetary penalties to ensure compliance.

These regulations will be developed in close co-operation with provinces, territories, indigenous partners, health care system stakeholders, vendors and patients to support a practical and co-ordinated implementation approach that takes Canadians' needs into account and supports interoperability across the country.

In developing this legislation, we looked at examples from other countries with similar approaches. The lessons learned, connections made and discussions carried out with the United States and some members of the European Union focused on the importance of adopting consistent standards and prohibiting data blocking. Based on the experience of these countries, voluntary approaches alone are insufficient to achieve widespread and effective interoperability, underscoring the need for clear legislative and regulatory requirements for these technologies and these companies.

The law will also serve as a safety net in provinces and territories that do not have similar legislation in place. Provinces and territories will have ample time to harmonize their own laws with the objectives of the federal framework, if necessary and if they deem it appropriate.

In closing, one important lesson to be learned from the health care system as a whole in 2026 is clear: Digital systems that are disconnected from one another pose a threat to the health and safety of all Canadians.

I believe that once implemented, Bill S-5 will save lives, improve the quality of care, reduce health care costs, and, more generally, make the work of health care professionals easier across the country.

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12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly DeRidder Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

Mr. Speaker, my colleague mentioned a piece on Canadian innovation. I would like his comments on how we are going to ensure through this legislation that we do not add red tape and barriers to smaller entrepreneurs, inadvertently creating a market where only the big players can play and smaller innovators cannot compete.

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12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Jean-Yves Duclos Liberal Québec Centre, QC

Mr. Speaker, that is an excellent question. Data blocking is bad for at least two groups of partners we really need to support and invest in in our health care sector. First, it is bad for researchers who complain, including in Quebec, about data inaccessibility that prevents the development of new technology and connections across health care professionals. It is obviously very bad for patients. Second, it is bad for small businesses that would like to develop software and technologies to compete with bigger businesses. If there is no interoperability, the data controlled by bigger businesses cannot be accessed by smaller businesses, which prevents smaller businesses from competing in this area.

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12:50 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC

Mr. Speaker, we are talking about connecting sensitive data from coast to coast to coast. My colleague concluded his remarks by saying that if the systems were disconnected, it would pose a threat to patients' health.

How did his government ensure the necessary cybersecurity measures were in place to prevent an attack on an interconnected system, a cyber-attack like the one we saw in July, in which autonomous artificial intelligence agents attacked Hugging Face without human intervention?

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12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Jean-Yves Duclos Liberal Québec Centre, QC

Mr. Speaker, my colleague is right to emphasize the importance of security in data sharing. His remarks were very eloquent.

We also need to recognize the importance of making the data accessible across Canada. For example, I could get sick on a trip to Edmonton. If the doctor who cares for me in Edmonton is unable to access important personal data to save my life, that is a problem for me.

I could be a student in Gatineau who lives in Ottawa. I could get sick in Gatineau and may have to be moved to a hospital in Ottawa to be able to access my medical data so that the doctor can treat me. That is a waste of time, and it could also put my health at risk.

Connectivity to support nationwide data sharing is also very important.

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12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ginette Petitpas Taylor Liberal Moncton—Dieppe, NB

Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my colleague for his great speech.

I know he has previously served as health minister, and I am rather curious to know whether, when he held that position, he had any discussions with provincial and territorial ministers to gauge the level of interest in this interoperability.

Could he also talk about how this interoperability might improve the quality of health care services in Canada?