Evidence of meeting #7 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was letter.

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Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual

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As an Individual

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Not on the Canadian people?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No, on the project.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

You then finish that with “and more”. You threaten him in effect with other disclosures that you're going to make. What are you referring to with the “and more”?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I refer to the whole other situation around the Canadian soldiers, especially the army, and how it threatened the lives of the people in Nova Scotia when I was asked to put ads for our company.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Because he didn't go ahead and support the Bear Head project.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes. I was asked in front of the--

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

I understand. Any--

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

--to put ads in the paper for jobs.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Was there anything else other than that?

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As an Individual

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Do I still have time?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

One minute.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Mr. Schreiber, you've also told us repeatedly about this $100,000 payment and that it occurred on June 23. I've gone through the material from the fifth estate showing the documentation of the money in the Britan account. The first deposit, the $500,000, did not occur until July 26, 1993, a month after this meeting with Mr. Mulroney.

Either you're wrong about the June date or you took the $100,000 from some other source. The first $100,000 out of that account didn't come until July 27. Which is it? Are you wrong on the date, or did you take the $100,000 from some other source?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I gave the first cash payment in the amount of $100,000 to Mr. Mulroney on or about August 27, 1993, when I met with Mr. Mulroney--no, no, this is something else. Oh yes, it was at the airport hotel.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

That was the first $100,000.

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As an Individual

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you.

Mr. Hubbard.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

Thanks, Mr. Chair.

We've heard a lot about success, and probably as a business person, Mr. Schreiber, you were very successful. You came to our country as an immigrant. By the early 1980s you had become friends with Frank Moores. You were involved with getting rid of Joe Clark. You saw your friend Brian Mulroney as Prime Minister. Things were going very well for you.

In fact, they improved year by year until the company that you were associated with got a contract for some 34 aircraft, and over $1 billion was involved. Along the way you had to be friends and be involved with a good number of people. I have some difficulty with success and who got money because of what the success was in terms of that sale.

I was also intrigued, Mr. Chair, with Harrington Lake. Harrington Lake became a centrepiece of all of this. You were very much attached to the Conservative government. You were from Bavaria--quite a conservative area of Germany. You came here with great respect for conservative values. With that, Mr. Schreiber, you had great influence.

Was the visit to Harrington Lake in 1993 your first visit to Harrington Lake?

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As an Individual

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

A Mr. Doucet came to you and indicated that Mr. Mulroney, the Prime Minister of Canada, wanted to meet you. You must have been elated. Here's the Prime Minister, inviting you out to his great resort to meet with him and maybe some of his friends to discuss what Mr. Doucet defined as a “money issue”.

When you met with Mr. Mulroney, who else was present?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

There must have been some servants. His wife was not there. At least, I didn't see her. But nobody...we were alone.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

The two of you were there alone.

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As an Individual