Evidence of meeting #5 for Special Committee on the Canadian Mission in Afghanistan in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
There were some fighters, but they never denied it.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
I'm going to go onto another one.
You talked about the NDS colonel with some inappropriate behaviour, and so on, and the man disappeared. Do you have any evidence at all about whether anything actually happened to that man, anything other than an opinion and a feeling?
You're not allowed to speak, Mr. Attaran.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
What sort of evidence would you like to see, sir?
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
Well, I'm asking you. You said the man was taken away, and you implied that he was killed or abused or something by the NDS.
Do you have any evidence of that, other than your opinion of the NDS?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
Well, when the detainee left Kandahar airfield, we had no control over that, and we had no contact with him. It was the job of DFAIT.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
So you have no idea what actually happened to that man.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
Well, from what the people were saying.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
You have no idea what actually happened to that man. There's no specific evidence.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
There is no specific evidence.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
Thank you.
The third story was about Mr. Rafeil, who was operated on at Kandahar airfield and who subsequently left.
Do you have any evidence about what actually happened to Mr. Rafeil?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
I said in my testimony that I don't know what happened to him.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
But he was transferred.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
Yes, that's fine, but you have no evidence about what actually happened to that man?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
Well, we didn't have any evidence until we found the shackles, and we also found the whips. You can go to the testimony of MPCC.
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Conservative
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
Even from January to August—
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
Please answer my question. Do you have any idea--specific evidence--about what happened to Mr. Rafeil?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
Who?
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
Mr. Rafeil, your third example. He was the man who was operated on in KAF. He had a bad....
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
You mean Ghafar.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
Sorry, it was Mr. Ghafar.
Do you have any specific evidence about what actually happened to him?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
He was transferred. NDS wouldn't accept him, so they transferred him to Kabul.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
That's all I know. He was transferred.