Evidence of meeting #5 for Special Committee on the Canadian Mission in Afghanistan in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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NDP
Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON
So once they handed over the detainees to the NDS, it was clear, from your experience, what would happen after. And this was at the end of October?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
Yes.
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NDP
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Conservative
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NDP
Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON
When did this happen, the threats to your family? Was it while you were in Afghanistan or when you left?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
When I was in Kandahar I heard from the local people. They were telling me I had to watch because they were investigating me. And that information was leaked. Also, I was in Panjwai, where an older man by the name of Abdul Barikhaka was working in the kitchen, and he came and told me, “Either you quit the job or you leave.” The next day, dead, shot in the head.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
Abdul Barikhaka.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
Thank you.
Mr. Malgarai, I don't know if this is a document at all. Did you translate this document?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
I might have. I have translated similar documents to this.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
I can't tell for sure if I did or not.
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Dr. Amir Attaran Counsel to Ahmadshah Malgarai, As an Individual
My client would like this document entered into the committee's record.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
Thank you very much.
You just made a very blanket statement that everybody in uniform in the Canadian Forces who had any knowledge or anything to do with detainees knew that detainees were being transferred to torture.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
Yes.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
How do you know that General Hillier knew?
You talked about great respect for General Laroche and how well you got along with him. Are you now calling General Laroche a liar?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
General Laroche has said that he had no knowledge...that no Canadians were transferred to torture, that he was aware of. You are just now calling him a liar. Are you calling General Laroche a liar?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
General Laroche has never said anything on record.
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
It was General Thompson.
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Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
Are you calling General Thompson a liar? Are you calling General Fraser a liar?
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Advisor to the Former Commander of the Joint Task Force Afghanistan, As an Individual
He didn't speak the truth.