Evidence of meeting #13 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Patrick McDonell  Sergeant-at-Arms and Corporate Security Officer, House of Commons
Larry Brookson  Acting Director, Parliamentary Protective Service
Julie Lacroix  Director, Corporate Security, Senate
Joint Chair  Hon. Gwen Boniface
Claude Carignan  Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
Peter Harder  Senator, Ontario, PSG
Vernon White  Senator, Ontario, CSG

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Acting Director, Parliamentary Protective Service

Larry Brookson

For 90 minutes, from my partners.

What I have full control over are the 421 protection officers I'm responsible for.

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

Thank you. That concludes my round.

We will now go on to.... I thought it was safe, by the way, Mr. Fortin, when you gave me the....

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

That is the case. You were safe as long as you stopped.

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

I was safe to stop talking. Okay, I appreciate that.

We'll now go to Senator Boniface. Senator Boniface, you have five minutes. The floor is yours.

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The Joint Chair Hon. Gwen Boniface

It will be Senator White.

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

Okay. Senator White, the floor is yours.

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

Thank you very much. I'll try to ask some rapid questions here.

Just so we're clear, Superintendent Brookson, the Emergencies Act provided the PPS with no new powers.

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Acting Director, Parliamentary Protective Service

Larry Brookson

Through you, Mr. Chair, that is correct.

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

At any time, are PPS members provided special constable powers under section 7 of the RCMP Act?

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Acting Director, Parliamentary Protective Service

Larry Brookson

Through you, Mr. Chair, no.

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

Was it considered in this case that possibly, because of the incident and the invocation, the RCMP should provide section 7 powers to PPS officers?

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Acting Director, Parliamentary Protective Service

Larry Brookson

Through you, Mr. Chair, no.

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

Would it assist PPS if it had more powers to perform some of its duties, such as arrest, beyond the powers it has now? If so, what would that look like?

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Acting Director, Parliamentary Protective Service

Larry Brookson

Through you, Mr. Chair, for the current operational requirement for the service, we're well suited within our civil authority under the Criminal Code.

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

Thank you very much, Superintendent.

Would it change if you were to take over Wellington Street and you had an expanded precinct? Do you believe it would be necessary to gain a different level of powers or more powers to maintain peace in that area?

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Acting Director, Parliamentary Protective Service

Larry Brookson

Through you, Mr. Chair, no, Senator White.

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

As a last question, my understanding is that there are reports that had been prepared in relation to closing Wellington Street well before the convoy at certain entry points onto the Hill, and even reports on a response to post-blast impact. Are those reports in the possession of PPS and/or Madam Lacroix?

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Director, Corporate Security, Senate

Julie Lacroix

Any of the threat risk assessments and reports we work on are a coordinated effort among the three security partners.

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

Would it be possible that we could have those shared with the committee, please?

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Director, Corporate Security, Senate

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

Thank you very much.

I think I have a couple of minutes left. I'll share them with my friend.

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

Senator Harder, the floor is yours.

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Senator, Ontario, PSG

Peter Harder

Thanks very much, Senator White. On behalf of the committee, I think we'll miss your questioning.

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Senator, Ontario, CSG

Vernon White

Some will.

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Senator, Ontario, PSG

Peter Harder

I'm not sure the witnesses will.

I'd like to follow up on Mr. Brookson's description of his enhanced staffing on the Hill. You said 30%. Was that deploying your full capacity of 421 officers?