Evidence of meeting #5 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was question.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joint Chair  Hon. Gwen Boniface (Senator, Ontario, ISG
Claude Carignan  Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
Larry W. Campbell  Senator, British Columbia, CSG
Brenda Lucki  Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
David Vigneault  Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
Joint Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Paul Cardegna
Stephanie Feldman  Committee Researcher

7:45 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Thank you very much.

Minister, the Prime Minister said that the Emergencies Act was geographically targeted, yet the wording in there is for all of Canada. I think the wording is “throughout Canada” in the regulation. I think everybody would agree that's how it was applied. It was throughout Canada as the Emergencies Act.

It makes me wonder. In that circumstance, the public order was made on February 14. The declaration was made, and then on February 16, we had the Coastal GasLink violent attack. An Order Paper question that came through yesterday indicted that the incident met the threshold as defined in the emergency measures regulations. I'm curious to know why the government did not respond to that violent attack using the Emergencies Act as opposed to the—

7:45 p.m.

Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Your time is up, Mr. Motz.

The minister could answer with a yes or a no.

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

It's a different event, and I'm not—

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Thank you, Minister.

Mr. Virani, you have one minute.

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Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Thank you, Minister.

Just answer yes or no, please. It's true that the Alberta government put in a written request for assistance at Coutts. Is it not?

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Yes, they did.

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Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

It's also true that there were tow truck companies in Ottawa who were threatened with death if they assisted in removing some of the convoy truckers. Is that correct?

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

We were advised of that.

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Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

The Ontario emergency declaration did not address towing or the commandeering of essential services. Is that correct?

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

It remained a challenge prior to the invocation of the federal Emergencies Act.

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Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

In the Ontario emergency act, when it talked about removing the vehicle licences for vehicles, obviously that applied only to Ontario-plated vehicles and not to Alberta-plated vehicles. Is that correct?

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

That was another issue that came up.

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Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Doug Ford, when specifically consulted on the invocation of the act, said he supported it. That's what's tabled in the House of Commons. Is that correct?

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

He did.

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Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Further to Ms. Bendayan's questions, on February 16 there was a further attempt to erect an illegal blockade in Windsor, and the tools under the Emergencies Act assisted in ensuring that the blockade was not resurrected at that time.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Your time is up, Mr. Virani.

Please answer with a yes or a no, Minister.

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Yes, and I would just add that the mayor of Windsor was also threatened during that period.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Thank you, Minister.

It's my turn to speak…

Pardon me, Mr. Green, you have the floor for one minute.

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

The floor is yours.

7:50 p.m.

Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

That's quite a back-and-forth.

I'm going to ask you some questions, Minister.

Earlier you said you'd received a written opinion before invoking the Emergencies Act. I'd like to ask you to produce it. Is that a problem, Minister?

You may answer with a yes or a no.

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Mr. Chair…

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

I'd like you to produce it within five days, by next Tuesday.

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

I know a motion was introduced.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Forget the motion. I only have 30 seconds left and I'd like to know whether you can or can't forward to me a copy of that opinion, or those opinions, that you received before invoking the Emergencies Act.

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Mr. Chair, if you write us, we will respond to your request.