Evidence of meeting #113 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was line.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
By the way, Linda has already brought it to my attention that when we were drafting, the drafters used the previous name, the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development, so that will need amending as a subamendment to bring it up to date with the current name.
These were recommendations from the Assembly of First Nations so that when an impact assessment of a designated project is going to a review panel, there's an opportunity for the Minister of the Environment, and the minister for I think at this point not indigenous services, but the proper title for Carolyn Bennett, as minister of indigenous legal and treaty rights—I'm afraid I don't have the proper name in front of me, as I'm still having trouble remembering the names of the newly divided ministries—to have their own conversation to provide alternative project review, which will ensure that any assessment will be done thoroughly on impacts to aboriginal and treaty rights of the designated project whenever there's a joint establishment of a review panel.
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
I'll make the subamendment for her.
I would like to replace “minister of Indian and northern development” with “minister of indigenous and northern affairs”.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
Okay. That seems reasonable.
All those in favour of the amendment to the amendment, which is just correcting the name.
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
I would like a recorded vote.
(Subamendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
I would like a recorded vote.
(Amendment as amended negatived: nays 8; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
We are now on PV-44, Ms. May.
If this is adopted, LIB-26 and CPC-4 cannot be moved because there will be a line conflict, just to let you know.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
I've spoken to this issue before, Madam Chair. It relates to the exclusions that occur in this act, in that the minister can't enter into a joint review panel agreement where the physical activities are regulated under the Nuclear Safety and Control Act or the Canadian energy regulator act, formerly known as the NEB Act. There has been no justification put forward, no justification at all. There's no public policy reason that springs to mind. It doesn't make any sense, so we're suggesting that it be deleted.
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
Could I have the officials' comment on the rationale for this provision?
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
Yes, but she suggested that there's really no rationale for having this provision in here. I want to hear what it is.
Liberal
Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Okay. I can't speak to the rationale behind—
Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
No, but even to that particular proposed subsection, other than to say that the way it's structured now would not permit a joint review with another jurisdiction where the life-cycle regulators—the CNSC or the NEB—are involved, but I do see that this amendment and other ones that follow from the Liberals as well would allow the joint review of those types of projects with other jurisdictions.
