Evidence of meeting #113 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was line.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC
Madam Chair, I would like to propose an amendment.
At our meeting on Tuesday, I was told that it would be possible to introduce an amendment now.
I would therefore like to introduce an amendment to remove paragraph (b) from section 32.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Philippe Méla
Would you happen to have a written copy of the amendment?
Conservative
Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC
No, I don't.
It's just removing something. I propose that paragraph (b) be removed from section 32.
Liberal
Liberal
Conservative
Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC
Absolutely
Madam Chair, I propose an amendment that removes paragraph (b) from section 32, on page 25.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
The amendment that's being proposed on the floor is that we remove proposed paragraph 32(b), which is under Exceptions, on page 25.
Is that okay?
Conservative
Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC
Madam Chair, I would like to explain why I want to remove paragraph (b) from section 32.
I think that paragraph (a) is sufficient and that identifying some pieces of legislation is restrictive. I would like it to be more general.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
That's a good explanation.
Here's the situation. We have to go in order of the lines. We're jumping ahead, because your lines start at line 8, and there's an amendment here going from line 5. I have to deal with that one first.
If that one passes, then yours would not be allowed. Let's see what happens with PV-35, okay?
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
You have to keep me on my toes here.
All right.
Ms. May, you're first.
Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
That's the goal of amendment PV-35.
This is to remove lines 5 to 13, again found under the “Exceptions” section—so we're in the same ballpark here—and replace them, as follows: “The Minister must not approve the substitution of a process in relation to a designated project” unless [Technical difficulty—Editor] “requested by a jurisdiction referred to in paragraph (c) or (d) of the definition jurisdiction...without the written consent of...Indigenous [people] that may be affected by the carrying out of the designated project”.
This again is essentially looking at indigenous consent on substitution of projects and was a recommendation of West Coast Environmental Law.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
Okay. I understand what you're doing.
All those in favour of the amendment?
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
I'd like a recorded vote.
(Amendment negatived: nays 8; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
We're now on Mr. Godin's amendment. We've had the explanation, so shall the amendment—
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Please don't call that yet. I wanted to have an explanation from the officials about what the different implications are if (b) is there or (b) isn't there.
Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
I apologize, Ms. Duncan. Could you repeat the question?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
For those who may have missed it, the amendment that's on the floor proposes that in the section “Exceptions”, proposed paragraph 32(a) stands and (b) is removed.
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
My question would be, if that is removed, is it possible that there would not be a review under this bill, and that it would be reviewed by one of those offshore boards instead?
Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
That is my understanding of that proposed amendment, yes.