Evidence of meeting #46 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gary Caldwell  As an Individual
Réjean Fauteux  As an Individual
Ann Fortier  As an Individual
Joe Goudie  As an Individual
Louise O'Sullivan  As an Individual
Liberato Martelli  As an Individual

3 p.m.

Liberal

Karen Redman Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

Okay, thank you.

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

You're welcome, ma'am.

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you.

We'll move now to Mr. Del Mastro, please.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Martelli, what percentage of the vote did you get in your riding?

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

If I'm not mistaken, sir, I think it was about 14.8% of the vote.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

You're mistaken. You got less than 10%, actually.

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

Well, if I got less than 10%, why did Elections Canada ship back $8,000 that you guys took?

August 11th, 2008 / 3 p.m.

A voice

Let's ask them.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Well, maybe they didn't, sir. Maybe you never got a refund. Did you look into that?

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

Well, from what I know, if you didn't get over 10%, you were supposed to pay back—

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

You didn't get a refund.

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

I was supposed to pay back, but they never asked for that.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Yes, that's because you didn't get 10% of the votes, so you didn't get a refund.

Now, Mr. Martelli, what—

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

Excuse me, sir, perhaps I could answer. If I was looking at the newspaper, because usually—

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

No, I'm moving on to my next question. It's okay. I'm just trying to clarify something for you.

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

No, I just want to answer your question.

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Gentlemen, simply on behalf of the translators—they work very hard back there—we can only have one person talk at a time.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay, good. It's my time.

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

So ask a question, let him answer; and then let him ask a question, etc., both of you.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay, but I've got the answer I was looking for, Mr. Chairman.

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

Sir, if I may ask this, on January 24, following the day of the election, in La Presse they showed all the statistics, and I got 14.8% of the votes. That's what they had marked.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay. You may want to check into that.

What led you to believe you were part of a regional media buy, Mr. Martelli? What led you to believe you were part of a regional media buy? What led you to believe you had anything to do with this?

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

Well, it's you guys who deposited the amount in my account without any explanations.

3 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay, but you were never a part of any regional media buy. Did you know that?

3 p.m.

As an Individual

Liberato Martelli

It was because I wasn't a star candidate for your guys; that's why.