Evidence of meeting #46 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gary Caldwell  As an Individual
Réjean Fauteux  As an Individual
Ann Fortier  As an Individual
Joe Goudie  As an Individual
Louise O'Sullivan  As an Individual
Liberato Martelli  As an Individual

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

Where would that $6,000 eventually wind up?

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As an Individual

Joe Goudie

In the campaign account, as far as I know. I know nothing other than that.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

It almost sounds, Mr. Goudie, like a very fast way of making money.

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As an Individual

Joe Goudie

It sounds that way.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

You simply had to take it with one hand, send it back with the other hand, and you got 60% back from the Government of Canada.

Mr. Goudie, with your experience in government, why do you think the Conservative Party was doing this? Why were they manipulating this money around—probably not to your benefit—and who benefited? Where did it...?

11:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Joe Goudie

There was no contact by anyone from the Conservative Party of Canada following the election, at least no contact with me. There was a phone call probably about three weeks before the news story became public, which would have been sometime in March, that I, Joe Goudie, may be contacted by the media regarding campaign funds and they asked that I not make any comment. Well, no one from the media contacted me. The news story came out and it went from there. I sought legal advice, as I said, and swore an affidavit, which was forwarded to Elections Canada.

But to clarify the point, I don't wish to leave the impression with this honourable committee that $10,000 was transferred to our account. It was not $10,000; it was $2,097.20.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Mr. Wallace, please.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll be sharing my time.

I have a couple of really quick questions for all the witnesses. Thank you for coming.

Based on my research—and you can explain it to me if I'm wrong—part of this motion is that we were dealing with public office-holders. Have any of you at any time been federal public office-holders during this election or prior to this election? Just quickly.

Ms. O'Sullivan, yes or no.

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Ms. Fortier.

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Gary.

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Mr. Goudie.

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

There were no public office-holders. So I'm not sure why you're witnesses here, to start with.

My next question is this. The motion is to deal with the 2006 election expenses. If I've done my research correctly, Ms. Fortier, you weren't involved in the 2006 election. Is that correct?

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As an Individual

Ann Fortier

No, I was ousted during the first week of the election.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

You weren't involved. I have no idea why you're here either.

And Ms. O'Sullivan, were you involved in the 2006 election?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

You were involved in the 2006 election?

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As an Individual

Louise O'Sullivan

I was running, yes.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

You were running, but did you participate in the regional media buy?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Did your riding association or your campaign participate in the regional media buy?