Evidence of meeting #46 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gary Caldwell  As an Individual
Réjean Fauteux  As an Individual
Ann Fortier  As an Individual
Joe Goudie  As an Individual
Louise O'Sullivan  As an Individual
Liberato Martelli  As an Individual

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I can comment.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Excuse me, sir, I have the floor.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I've got the floor. I'm raising that on a point of order.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

No, sir, you're not. Mr. Del Mastro is on a point of order, sir.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Are you going to allow me to speak?

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Order, please.

Mr. Del Mastro was in the middle of his questioning and I stopped the clock. So he still has two minutes of his time remaining.

Mr. Proulx, on a point of order, raised the concern about the relevance of sponsorship. Mr. Del Mastro acknowledged that and just wants to go on to his question, so I think it's resolved.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I'd like to speak, Chair, on a point of order. Before we start, I want to—

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

No, excuse me, excuse me. Order, please.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I have the absolute right to speak to his point of order. You can't ignore that, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Mr. Tilson, thank you.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

No, you can't. I have every right to respond to his point of order out of courtesy and out of the practice of this committee and out of the practice of this House.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Mr. Tilson, I call you to order, please.

Mr. Tilson, contrary to what you've said, points of order are not debatable, okay? And you may want to check the rules on that.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Sir, I have the right to respond to his point of order. I do have the right.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

No, sir, you do not. I have made a ruling.

Now, Mr. Del Mastro—

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

You've made a ruling based on what, sir? Give me your rationale as to why you did that.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

It's the rules under the Standing Orders.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Read them to me.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Chair, I have a point of order.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

No, no, no. Hang on.

You know, Mr. Lemieux, when we're in the middle of a point of order, you can't call for a point of order. Okay? Please....

This was very straightforward. It was a simple question of relevance. Mr. Del Mastro acknowledged it and wanted to move on. The matter is over.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Sir, it's not over until you tell me why I can't respond to his point of order.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Mr. Del Mastro has two minutes remaining in his questions.

Mr. Del Mastro, please proceed.

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

No, no. Sir, I'd like to hear what your authority is. You're looking it up in the book. Take all the time you like. I'd like to know where it is.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Mr. Tilson, I'm familiar with the rules, and you—

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11:25 a.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Well, sir, tell me what the rule is.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Excuse me, sir. I've made a ruling.

As spoken