Evidence of meeting #17 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was screen.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Blanchard  Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Canada, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

Mr. Blanchard—

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Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Canada, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada

Marc-André Blanchard

Can you please let me finish my answer?

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

It's my time. I'm taking my time back.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

Then, on September 27, while in London, England, Mr. Carney attended an intimate working breakfast with Canada's High Commissioner to the U.K., Ralph Goodale, and eight international investors. Four of the eight investors present were from companies that have major connections to none other than Brookfield.

Is it just another coincidence? It seems to me to be part of a pattern—Brookfield, Brookfield, Brookfield.

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Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Canada, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada

Marc-André Blanchard

I think Canadians are extremely happy that the Prime Minister is able to meet with the biggest investors in the world. The investors you are talking about do not represent companies that are linked to Brookfield. Rather, they represent independent investment funds, which are among the largest investment funds in the world. We want to count them—

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

Mr. Blanchard—

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Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Canada, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada

Marc-André Blanchard

—among investors in Canada and that's—

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Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

You had equal time, Mr. Blanchard.

I'm going to go to Mr. Cooper.

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Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

What's your point of order, Mr. Baker?

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Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

My point of order is that, as MPs, we need to allow the witness to answer the question.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

The witness had ample time to answer the question.

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Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

The member has asked a similar question multiple times and has not allowed the witness to answer.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

The witness had ample time to answer the question.

I didn't stop your clock. I'm going to add another 25 seconds to your time.

I gave Mr. Blanchard ample time to answer the question.

Mr. Cooper, it's your time. You have 45 seconds here.

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

We've heard various excuses, various explanations, offered. Technically the screen might not have applied in these cases. Technically there might not have been a direct conflict of interest. There's always some sort of explanation, but wouldn't it be better if the Prime Minister simply heeded the advice of the Ethics Commissioner and stayed the hell away from Brookfield?

Wouldn't that be better?

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Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Canada, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada

Marc-André Blanchard

May I answer, Mr. Chair?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

You have 15 seconds.

Go ahead.

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Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Canada, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada

Marc-André Blanchard

For each of the meetings in London, verifications were done to ensure that ethical measures were being followed. It was determined that there was no ethical issue in holding these meetings, as the participants were among the largest institutional investors in the world and had no connection to Brookfield.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Thank you, Mr. Blanchard.

Ms. Church, you have five minutes.

Go ahead.

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Liberal

Leslie Church Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Welcome, Mr. Blanchard.

Let me take you back to your earlier statement about the exchange with Mr. Nigel Wright before this committee.

Mr. Blanchard, would you be willing to provide a text of his appearance to our committee to be able to read it into the record?

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Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Canada, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada

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Liberal

Leslie Church Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

Would you be able to do that within the following week?

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Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Canada, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada