Finance Committee on May 29th, 2023

[The Clerk]

I should give out the numbers, because I didn't get it yet. I should give the numbers, and she would be on the next vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Okay.

Mr. Clerk, can you just let us know how the vote went?

(Clause 10 agreed to: yeas 6; nays 4)

We're going to suspend for a couple of minutes.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Okay, we're back, everybody. I think we have cleared up the substitution.

We're at clause 11.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'd like a recorded division, Mr. Chair.

(Clause 11 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

I have a brief point of order.

Would it be too much to ask for the sections to be read?

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Yes, it would. We are not doing that, MP Lawrence.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

Oh, come on, Mr. Chair. Wow.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We're on clause 12.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm challenging the chair on reading the sections. Come on. Just read the sections. Give us a little bit.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Genuis, you haven't been on this committee. Maybe you don't understand how things work—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

No, Mr. Chair, I understand how things are suppose to work at committees, so—

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

If you're challenging the chair—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—if this is Peter Fonsecaland with a whole bunch of different rules, that's fine—

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

There's no debating, MP Genuis—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—but I know the standing orders very, very well.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We'll go to the clerk. There's a challenge.

[The Clerk]

There's a challenge to the chair to read the sections.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

It's that we're not reading the sections.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

We can challenge the chair. You don't get to unilaterally decide the challenges of the proceedings.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We'll suspend.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We're back.

MP Genuis, you can't even be recognized, because it was under debate.

We'll just go back to clause 12, everybody.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I challenged the chair, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

You were debating within your point of order and you were debating a motion.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I wasn't debating a motion. He said that you should read the sections. You said that you wouldn't read the sections, and I challenged the chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We will suspend.