Evidence of meeting #47 for Finance in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was food.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Chief Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak  Assembly of First Nations
Deegan  President and Chief Executive Officer, News Media Canada
Stephenson  Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder, Riipen Networks Inc.
Martin-Laforge  Director General, TALQ
Gladstone  Acting Director, Housing and Infrastructure, Assembly of First Nations
Kharas  As an Individual
Higgins  Chief Executive Officer, Cooperation Canada
Vansintjan  Policy Researcher, Food Secure Canada
Barrett  Executive Director, Frontier Duty Free Association
Strati  Senior Vice-President, Industry and Policy, Canadian Media Producers Association
Irving  Chair, Board of Directors, Canadian Media Producers Association
Obed  President, Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami
Pruden  President, Métis National Council
Longboat  Chief Executive Officer, Ontario Federation of Indigenous Friendship Centres
Gignac  Senior Adviser, Investors for Paris Compliance
Appleton  Interim Director, Balsillie Legal Advisory Centre, As an Individual
Beatty  Industry Consultant, As an Individual
Vicente  Canada Managing Director, Hitachi Energy Canada

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I'd like to speak to the same point of order. I believe it's my right to speak to the point of order as the mover of the motion.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

No. I've already ruled that it's inadmissible, so you're welcome to challenge the chair if you like. Other than that, it's been ruled inadmissible.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Just to clarify, are you saying that the clerks were incorrect to put it on notice as an acceptable motion?

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

No. I am deeming it inadmissible because it deals with the business of another committee, and that is not the business of this committee.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I believe it deals with Bill C-30.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Mr. Mantle, I'm sorry; I've already made a ruling. If you would like, you can challenge the chair, but otherwise we're going to move back to business.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Could you just put your reasons on the record for us, please?

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

I have already.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I don't think they're cogent or persuasive. Could you just restate them?

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Excuse me, Mr. Mantle. I'm going to conclude this part, so you can either continue with.... No. Actually, you don't have any more time left. You have four seconds.

Jean-Denis Garon Bloc Mirabel, QC

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Go ahead, Monsieur Garon.

Jean-Denis Garon Bloc Mirabel, QC

I would just like to ask a question about procedure.

I fully understand the point made by my colleague Mr. Turnbull, who says that the motion is not in order because it refers to Bill C‑22.

If my other colleague had moved a motion stating strictly that he wishes to suspend Bill C‑30, without referring to Bill C‑22, would the motion have been deemed in order in that context?

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Mr. Garon, I'm not going to answer that question. I would have to see a motion in writing. I've already made my decision and we're going to continue the meeting.

Mr. Leitão, you have the floor.

Carlos Leitão Liberal Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I'd like to challenge the chair.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

You don't have the floor.

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

You interrupted me, so in theory I still have floor.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Excuse me, but I did not interrupt you. I had already made the decision. If you want, you can challenge the chair.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I challenge the chair's ruling.

The Clerk of the Committee Vicky Sedhya Maurice-Sevigny

We're voting on challenging the chair's decision. If you vote yea, it is to sustain the decision of the chair. If you vote nay, it is to overturn the decision of the chair.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 6; nays 5)

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Mr. Leitão, you have the floor.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I believe you said I had four seconds left, Madam Chair.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

The four seconds are up now.

Go ahead, Mr. Leitão.

Carlos Leitão Liberal Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

We're going to continue with the agenda item: pre-budget consultations.

Good morning, Ms. Vicente. Thank you for being here.

We're discussing pre-budget consultations and the role that Hitachi Energy Canada already plays in the Canadian economy. As you mentioned, your company has been here for about a hundred years. I had the opportunity to visit your plant in Varennes. Indeed, your company's commitment to providing a reliable electricity grid is crucial and will contribute to Canada's economic development.

Let's go back to your recommendations. You mentioned the importance of the local, made‑in‑Canada supply chain. Indeed, one of the key objectives of our industrial policy is to ensure, as much as possible, that large companies, whether public or private entities, that are awarded contracts incorporate local small- and medium-sized enterprises into the supply chain.

Could you tell us how you ensure that as many local SMEs as possible participate in your supply chain?