Evidence of meeting #62 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was results.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Christopher MacLennan  Deputy Minister, International Development, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Peter MacDougall  Assistant Deputy Minister, Global Issues and Development, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Patricia Peña  Assistant Deputy Minister, Partnerships for Development Innovation, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Andrew Smith  Director General, International Assistance Policy, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

I call the meeting to order.

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to meeting number 62 of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development.

Today’s meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the House order of June 23, 2022. Members are attending in person in the room, as well as remotely, using the Zoom application.

I'd like to make a few comments for the benefit of the members and witnesses.

Please wait until I recognize you by name before speaking. For those participating by video conference, click on the microphone icon to activate your microphone, and please mute yourselves when you are not speaking. Interpretation for those on Zoom is at the bottom of your screen. You have the choice of THE floor, English or French. For those in the room, you can use the earpiece and select the desired channel. I remind you that all comments should be addressed through the chair.

Members, I ask for your indulgence this morning. I was unable to make the flight for reasons beyond my control.

Today, pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), the committee will commence its consideration of the main estimates 2023-24. Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20 and L30 under the Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development, vote 1 under the International Development Research Centre and vote 1 under the International Joint Commission (Canadian Section) were referred to the committee on Wednesday, February 15, 2023.

Now it's my pleasure to welcome to the committee today the Honourable Harjit Sajjan, Minister of International Development. Moreover, welcome should also be extended to his officials, who will be supporting him today in the consideration of the main estimates 2023-24.

We have several officials from the Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development, including Christopher MacLennan, deputy minister of international development; Anick Ouellette, assistant deputy minister and chief financial officer; Peter MacDougall, assistant deputy minister of global issues and development; Patricia Peña, assistant deputy minister of partnerships for development innovation; Annie Boyer, director general and deputy chief financial officer of financial planning and management; and Andrew Smith, director general of international assistance policy.

Minister Sajjan, thank you for once again appearing before our committee. You will be provided a maximum of five minutes for your remarks, after which we will open it to the members for questions.

Minister Sajjan, the floor is yours for five minutes.

11:05 a.m.

Vancouver South B.C.

Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan LiberalMinister of International Development

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you to members of the committee.

I'm glad to be here today to discuss Canada's leadership in international assistance.

As members know, the world is facing a rising tide of instability, with the lingering effects of the pandemic's disruption of global supply chains; Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine; the multi-dimensional humanitarian crisis in Haiti; the devastating outbreak of violence in Sudan; more frequent and extreme weather events as a result of climate change; the Taliban's aggressive moves against women and girls; restrictions on reproductive rights in Poland, the U.S. and other countries; and a backlash against gender equality across the world.

These are immense global challenges. Canada has played and will continue to play an important role in rising to meet these needs.

Against this backdrop, I'm proud to report that Canada continues to meet and even exceed its goals for international development assistance under the feminist international assistance policy. In 2021-22, nearly 99% of Canada's bilateral international development assistance either targeted or integrated gender equality—meeting and then exceeding our target of 95% by 2022.

We continue to address the root causes of poverty and inequality by focusing on those most likely to be left behind, and empowering women and girls in all of their diversity.

We're also committed to constantly improving the quality and effectiveness of our international assistance.

These achievements have not gone unnoticed. Canada was one of the first countries in the world to put a feminist international assistance policy in place. Others are now following suit. For the fourth year in a row, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development acknowledged us as the top bilateral donor for gender equality.

Now, looking forward, Canada's leadership is more consequential and needed than ever before. For example, Canada is delivering on its commitment under the Paris Agreement to keep the 1.5°C goal within reach. Our global climate investments are expected to prevent or reduce more than 228 megatonnes of greenhouse gas emissions.

Take Canada's support to the Global Environment Facility. As the seventh largest donor, our support is helping more than eight million adapt to climate change and protect almost 99 million hectares of marine biodiversity.

But we know that funding alone is not enough to address the uneven impacts of climate change. That's why we continue to advocate for the resilience and adaptation of developing countries through our engagement in both the Green Climate Fund and the Climate Investment Funds.

At the same time, we continue to work with like-minded partners, including multilateral organizations, to phase out coal and promote investments in clean energy.

We continue to advocate internationally for small island developing states and least-developed countries that contribute the least to climate change, yet are most vulnerable to its impacts.

The most vulnerable countries today are at the front line of some of the most challenging crises of our time, including but not limited to climate change. As we speak, in 2023, over 346 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance. More than 100 million people have been forcibly displaced. Over 345 million people are predicted to be food insecure.

Canada continues to be a leader in addressing humanitarian needs that rise year on year.

In 2022, we were the fifth largest humanitarian donor, providing more than $1 billion in humanitarian assistance.

Last year, we allocated over $400 million in humanitarian assistance to respond to needs in sub-Saharan Africa, $227 million to respond to needs in Ukraine, and over $143 million to Afghanistan and the region.

We also allocated nearly $650 million for humanitarian food and nutrition assistance in response to the growing global food crisis. Our assistance helped the World Food Programme to reach a record 158 million people who were food insecure in 2022. It's an impressive 27% increase from 2021.

We also contributed to providing humanitarian assistance and protection to more than 100 million refugees and other forcibly displaced persons through the UNHCR in 2022.

In line with the FIAP, Canada continues to be a strong advocate for gender-responsive humanitarian action.

Canada also remains committed to the triple nexus approach that integrates humanitarian development, peace and security actions to more effectively respond to and ultimately prevent conflict. That is what good development assistance does. It goes hand in hand with peace and stabilization actions.

Global Affairs Canada is constantly working to improve the quality and effectiveness of Canada's international assistance. While the Auditor General's recent report affirms the urgent need for Canada's feminist international assistance policy, it also calls for improved systems to capture and report its results and to better integrate gender equality, human rights and intersectional considerations into our projects to ensure that we are reaching the poorest nd most vulnerable.

Through the ongoing grants and contributions transformation initiative, Global Affairs Canada is also finding new ways of working that are faster, more transparent and more flexible. This will further enhance Canada's capacity to both report on and deliver sustainable results that make a positive change in people's lives.

Meaningful climate action and humanitarian assistance go hand in hand with gender equality and also human rights to build a more just and more prosperous world for all of us.

That is why we are making the most of the transformative potential of Canada's feminist approach to international assistance. It's to tackle the root causes of inequality and poverty to transform the lives of those most in need around the globe.

Thank you very much for listening.

I look forward to your questions.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Thank you very much for your opening remarks, Minister.

Now I'll open the floor to questions from the members. Our first member is Mr. Genuis.

Mr. Genuis, you have six minutes.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Thank you, Chair.

I want to start today by honouring Kyle Porter and Cole Zelenco, who are two Canadian heroes who died during fighting in Bakhmut after joining the Ukraine international legion. Those who knew them must be feeling a lot of pain right now, but also a lot of pride for the courage these young men demonstrated in this important fight.

Minister, thank you for being here to take our questions.

During the fall of Afghanistan, a Trudeau-appointed senator issued fake Canadian travel documents. This is, obviously, extremely serious. Emails were sent to you about this at the time, but you said that you didn't read those emails.

As the Minister of International Development today, do you check your emails and would you say that you read all of them?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Mr. Chair, at the previous committee, I took the time to answer those questions.

Mr. Chair, if you want me to answer questions on the emails or the mains, I leave it to you.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I control the time and I'd like you to answer the question about your current activities as Minister of International Development.

Do you check your emails today? Do you read the emails you receive?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

I do read emails.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Do you read all of them?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

I can assure you....

Mr. Chair, if you want me to answer the question and give me the opportunity to answer it, we were in a very intense time—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I'm just asking. Do you check your emails now?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Mr. Chair, if you want me to answer the question—

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

I have a point of order.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Let me answer the question. I'm happy to do so. If you want a little sound bite, you can try to get it, but if you want—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

No, I'm asking now. As Minister of International Development, do you check your emails?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

If you want me to answer the question, I answered at the last committee and I'm happy to answer these questions, but give me the opportunity to answer fully.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

I understand that we have a point of order.

We will proceed with the point of order.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Thank you, Chair.

I just want to clarify, on relevance, the topic that we're talking about this morning, please.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Yes, I would ask the members to keep it relevant to the main estimates, which is the reason the minister is with us today.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Chair, on the same point, I was asking the minister if, in his current role of Minister of International Development, he checks all of his emails and reads them.

It's hard to argue that this is not relevant to his current activities.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

That's fair enough.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Thank you.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

We will now turn to the minister.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Go ahead, Minister, please.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Yes, I do check my emails.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Thank you.

What was the precise period during which you did not check your emails?