Evidence of meeting #39 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was block.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Russell Ullyatt  As an Individual
Andy Gibbons  As an Individual
Lynne Hamilton  Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual
Clarke Cross  Principal, Tactix Government Relations and Public Affairs, As an Individual
Howard Mains  Co-President, Tactix Government Relations and Public Affairs, As an Individual
Timothy Egan  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Gas Association

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

We'll call the meeting to order. This is the 39th meeting of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

We're here pursuant to the order of reference of November 29 on a question of privilege relating to the premature disclosure of a confidential draft of the pre-budget consultations of the Standing Committee on Finance by an employee of the member for Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar.

It's been requested by the committee that we do swear in the witness, so I'll ask the clerk to take care of that first.

11 a.m.

Russell Ullyatt As an Individual

The evidence I shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God.

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Great.

We have our witness for one hour and then other witnesses in the second hour. I'm suggesting we do a seven-minute round and then a five-minute round, and we'll see what we have left after that.

11 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Do we go until one o'clock?

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Yes, we go until one o'clock today.

Mr. Ullyatt, you have a very quick opening statement of one or two minutes. Please go ahead with that.

11 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

On Thursday, November 18, I received by e-mail, along with all members and their staff of the finance committee, a first draft of a report of the finance committee prepared by committee staff. When I received the report that morning, I did not read it, but I did do two things. One, I printed a copy for Mrs. Block and placed it in a binder for her to review. And two, I e-mailed the report to some friends of mine whose identities have since been made public.

The next day, Friday, November 19, I received a call at home at approximately 7 a.m. from Mrs. Block. She said she had heard that I had distributed the document to someone who was not with the committee and therefore not entitled to have it. I immediately admitted my mistake. Mrs. Block then indicated that as of that moment I was terminated from her office staff.

I know that my action was wrong. The moment I disclosed the document constituted a critical lapse in judgment and a personal failure on my part, for which I am solely and completely responsible.

A question that might be asked today is why, what benefit was in your actions? The people I sent the document to were friends. I was not expecting anything in return, nor was I promised anything. No one asked me for the document. I did not photocopy the draft. I did not use BlackBerry PIN technology to forward the report. I did not fax the report. I did not discuss the content of the report with anyone over the phone or in person.

I hope from these clear and unequivocal statements that you will conclude that there was no motive other than trying to look important to some friends.

I wish to take this time to apologize to all members of the House for my action, especially members of the finance committee. I know my action, however spontaneous and quick that it was, was wrong.

I also want to publicly apologize to my family, including my wife, my mother, and my extended family, for the hurt that my lapse has caused them, as well as thank them for their support. I can only hope that they'll forgive me.

I would also like to apologize to the members of this committee. I know that this matter is extremely serious and that my action is taking up the valuable time of this committee, which might be spent on other more important topics.

I want to apologize to Mrs. Block. I did not forward the document at her request. She had no knowledge of my actions and is a member of Parliament with impeccable morals and ethics. She has always strived to be above reproach and to me embodies all the qualities Canadians should expect of their members of Parliament.

I finally must apologize to the individuals to whom I sent the document. I acted alone, without solicitation or provocation from the individuals in question, and my actions have since brought an incredible amount of undue stress and problems upon them. I'm truly sorry that my action alone could cause this.

In conclusion, I take complete responsibility for this, as I alone made the mistake of releasing the document. There was no one else involved.

Mr. Chair, I would also like to add that I sent a written apology to Mr. Rajotte, the chair of the finance committee. I asked him to share a copy of my letter to the entire committee.

I stand ready to answer your questions today. Thank you for the opportunity.

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Thank you.

Madam Ratansi, seven minutes, please.

11 a.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Thank you.

I have a series of brief questions, and I would appreciate an honest and brief response.

Who, if anyone, coached you on your appearance here today?

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

I retained the services of a lawyer to ensure that I understood my responsibilities of appearing in front of the committee, and I spoke to my family and friends about my opening statement.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Okay. So you had no assistance from anybody in the Conservative Party or the Prime Minister's Office or anything?

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

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Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Who, if anyone, helped you write your letter of apology and helped you translate it?

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

I alone wrote my letter of apology, along with, again, some suggestions from my family. However, I do not have the resources to have my letter translated, so I forwarded it to Mr. Rajotte in English only.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

So the French translation was done by whom, Mr. Chair?

Oh, the finance committee did the translation for you. Okay.

When you made your statement, you said that you sent the pre-consultation draft report to five lobbyists because they were your friends. Tell me, why did you send it to them? Why did you send it to Tactix, Hill & Knowlton, Consumers Gas? What did you think you were going to get out of that, or what benefit did you think they were going to get out of a secret document?

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

Thank you for the question.

I did not expect to benefit at all from my actions. As I referred in my opening statement, I believe that the moment I sent that document was a critical lapse in my judgment. I was simply at that time sending a document to a few friends out of a concept of self-importance, so to speak--“Look at me; I'm important.” It was out of trying to make myself look better, and there was no expectation of anything in return.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Were you trying to make yourself look important, or were you trying to impress upon the lobbyists—they were Conservative lobbyists—that your member of Parliament is important, that she has some pull?

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

No, I acted alone. My thought process did not involve Mrs. Block whatsoever. It was entirely me.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Before I go further with my questions, what's the name of your lawyer, and who paid for his services? Did you personally?

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

I paid for my own lawyer's services, yes.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Could we have the name of your lawyer?

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

It's Paul Lepsoe.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Thank you.

You said that you did it on your own and that you did it because they were friends. Your e-mail to Ms. Hamilton says: “I hope this overcomes any shortcomings. Does it make up for all my other shortcomings?” What do you mean by that?

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

The comments in my e-mail to Mrs. Hamilton were simply banter among friends. As I mentioned, there was no underlying meaning. I know the importance of the document I was sending, but there was no meaning other than simple banter.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

You're not new to the political arena. You did work for former minister Guergis and you received a secret clearance when you worked for the minister.

11:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Russell Ullyatt

That is correct.