Evidence of meeting #42 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was document.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Lynne Hamilton  Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Ms. Hamilton, prior to the leak did you correspond with Mr. Ullyatt at his home business e-mail address?

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Why?

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

It was the only e-mail I had for him.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

We have a copy of an e-mail from you on November 8, 2010 to Mr. Ullyatt. That is the e-mail asking him to set up a meeting with Ms. Kelly Block, the MP, for your heart and stroke clients.

You knew that he was working for Ms. Block. Did you not have his address at Ms. Block's office?

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

I did not.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Did you have a meeting with Ms. Block?

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

I did not.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Okay. In answer to Mr. Lukiwski, when he was asking why you had opened the attachment without being prudent about it, you said “I expected communications from him”, or “He was a gentleman I expected communications from”.

What kinds of communications were you expecting from him--that draft report?

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

No, I expected friendship, banter, chatter.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I see.

Mr. Ullyatt, in his testimony, said he believed the “I heart you” e-mail was based upon your appreciation of his efforts to give you inside information. In your previous testimony and very recently, you stated the “I heart you” was not related to his leaking of the report. Which version, according to you, is the true one--yours or his?

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

I was appreciative of the fact that Mr. Ullyatt had thought enough to send me a document. I did not for one second believe it was a confidential document or that it was inappropriate to send. It was worth the thanks e-mail just for thinking of me to send the document.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Without knowing what the document was. He could have sent you the schedule for the Ottawa Senators and you would have replied the same way.

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

Normally when people send you things it is pretty common to write back “thanks”, or some sort of acknowledgment so they know you have received it.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Okay. You stated that in reference to the draft report--and I'm using your words--you “thumbed through it at approximately four o'clock”. Your statement this morning says three-something, but don't worry about that.

Considering your extensive experience in government, do you honestly expect this committee to believe you did not realize that was a confidential draft report? Really?

Tell me, what was the inscription of the name of the attachment on that e-mail? It mustn't have been “Ottawa Senators schedule”.

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

I couldn't have told you this on the day, but three months later, I can tell you it says “FINA PBC Report Draft 2010”.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

So to you that was okay? It was a document that he should have released to you?

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

When I read it, I read it to be “Final PBC Report”.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

How do you remember that that was the name of the document when you said in your opening statement this morning that you had double-shredded the document on the Monday morning? Yet when you testified here the first time, you didn't know what the document was.

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

As I just indicated, I couldn't have told you that information three months ago. I know today—

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Why not?

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

Because I didn't look at it quickly enough.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

But now you have, three months later? You're supposed to have double-deleted it, you said.

11:40 a.m.

Vice-President, Public Affairs, GCI Group, As an Individual

Lynne Hamilton

Absolutely, and I also had to go through every e-mail and produce it for you and prepare packages. I've read the correspondence since--not the document, but the correspondence since.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Okay.

How much time do I have?