Evidence of meeting #36 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was clause.

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MPs speaking

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Marc Chénier  Senior Officer and Counsel, Privy Council Office
Philippe Méla  Procedural Clerk
Natasha Kim  Director, Democratic Reform, Privy Council Office

7:20 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor, NL

My guys are hoping for a vote on amendment LIB-12 as well.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

You'll get it, and it will include amendment PV-23.

Ms. May, because it is yours, would you like to comment?

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Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I understand your recognition that these are substantially similar, but they are only slightly differently worded. I think it's important to recognize that we have the opportunity before committee not to make this a pro forma exercise but to really look at each amendment. We have the opportunity here to remove partisanship from the selection of poll workers and registration officers.

The current draft of Bill C-23 solicits the names of candidates for these positions from those parties who have finished first and second in that riding. In that, we have created the perception of partisanship in poll workers. I think that's an important thing to emphasize. That's why all the opposition amendments at this point are trying to put in place the principle that was so well expressed by the evidence of Mr. Neufeld, that choosing poll workers, registration officers, and poll supervisors solely on the basis of merit will increase public confidence in our voting system.

We're running through the amendments relatively quickly at this point, and I understand that, but I want to emphasize the point of principle here, that it will enhance the fairness, and the perception of fairness, in the entire voting process if no partisan operatives are involved in recommending registration officers.

With that, I'll close.

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Thank you.

Contrary to what certain high school math teachers might say about my ability, I had the ability to do math, and after the last vote I have an idea how this is going to go, which is why, with this stack here, I'd like to move as reasonably sensibly quickly as we can.

We'll vote on amendment LIB-12.

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Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor, NL

A recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

It's defeated, so I carry with it amendment PV-23.

Shall clause 21 carry?

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An hon. member

On division.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

(Clause 21 agreed to on division)

(On clause 22)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Mr. Simms, on amendment LIB-13.

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A voice

Are you sure we don't want amendment NDP-21 first?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Well, it's not the order it's in here.

Amendment NDP-21 is first.

Sorry, Mr. Simms.

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NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

That's not the way we have it either.

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A voice

How come?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I don't know how come.

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NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

If I can make it easier, I decline to move amendment NDP-21. Can I withdraw it, please?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Okay. Then that leaves me with amendment LIB-13?

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A voice

No, it would be NDP-22.

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Amendment NDP-22.

7:25 p.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

Will we be getting to amendments LIB-13 and PV-24?

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Yes, they are right after these, apparently.

7:25 p.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

Amendment NDP-22, I also will decline to move because, given the way the votes have been going, I explained this would have been the section—

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

To where we were going to go?

7:25 p.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

—setting out guidelines, but it's a little bit redundant, or something else.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

All right.

On amendment LIB-13, Mr. Simms.

7:25 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor, NL

Yes, I'm going to quickly say we're deleting part of the clause, removing partisan activity from administration of elections. That's it.