Evidence of meeting #95 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
No, we voted on the 106(4), so we're no longer on the 106(4).
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
We're still on the 106(4). The 106(4) calls for a meeting to discuss a potential study. It's not.... Once we've adopted the motion, we're still in that 106(4) meeting that you asked for.
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
We also asked to include, which we agreed to, discussion of the committee agenda. We're still not—
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
That is why notice was sent by the clerk for the subcommittee to meet and discuss the agenda and the committee business, which we're supposed to do right now.
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
You lost the adjournment vote, because I know you don't want to discuss things in public.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Right now, we're under Standing Order 106(4), so I can't accept motions of committee business that do not pertain to 106(4).
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
The committee's refusing to accept the motion to do a study, as I outlined, on the carbon tax and its impact on our economy.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
It's not that, Mr. Perkins. Notice needs to be sent for a motion like this. It can be brought forth, as you know, in a regular committee meeting. This is a 106(4) meeting, and notice has not been given of the motion. That's all.
Conservative
Liberal
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
We have finished the 106(4), so we are still in open committee.
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
No, the meeting is our general Tuesday meeting. I agreed to allow the five days to deal with it to extend to six days last week, out of courtesy to the chair and to the committee members, since the witnesses for the day on C-27 declined to appear. I could have forced this meeting to happen yesterday, as per the rules of the House of Commons.
In an effort of collegiality, I said, “No, I'll move it to today in order to work with the fellow Liberals.” Apparently the Liberals want to shut down any discussion about the harm that their carbon tax is having on the Canadian economy. They will go to any end to shut committees down.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Mr. Perkins, as chair, I just think this is a very procedural point.
Conservative
Liberal
Viviane LaPointe Liberal Sudbury, ON
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. I'm seeking clarification through you.
Is MP Perkins challenging the chair?
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
Sure. I will challenge the chair's decision on this.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
At this point, Mr. Perkins, we're not in committee business. We're on the 106(4) that you asked for.
After consulting with the clerk, I was informed that this is not a receivable motion. There has been no notice given.
Now, I'll recognize—
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
I'm challenging the chair's ruling on that decision.
November 7th, 2023 / 5:35 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Then I will call for a vote.
(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)
We're still under Standing Order 106(4), even though the motion has been adopted to conduct this study.
As per the notice that I've sent and for which I've received absolutely no objection to by any member here, we were supposed to have one hour. Mr. Perkins told me that the 106(4) would take one hour. Then the rest would be committee business. I sent notice for the subcommittee to meet to discuss the rest of C-27 and how we would go forward with C-27.
Are we in agreement to adjourn the meeting and go to the subcommittee?
