Evidence of meeting #35 for International Trade in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was julian.
A recording is available from Parliament.
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Mr. Julian, if you want to question my ruling, you go ahead and do that.
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
I've done that.
It is up to the chair to make these decisions, Mr. Julian. If you question a decision of the chair, you can do that. There's a process for that. And you haven't done that. So we're going to this motion, which has been brought forward.
Perhaps you could repeat the motion.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Mr. Julian is challenging the chair. I have to consult on how we deal with this.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
That's non-debatable. We'll go to a vote on that, Mr. Julian.
Mr. Julian has challenged the chair, so we're voting on sustaining the decision, which means a positive vote upholds the ruling of the chair.
Bloc
Serge Cardin Bloc Sherbrooke, QC
You made a lot of rulings today. Could you clarify what ruling you are talking about?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
We'll have to start over again.
Do you want clarification on what we're voting on?
I apologize. What we're voting on is a motion to sustain the ruling of the chair. A positive vote would mean that the ruling of the chair is upheld and that Mr. Julian's challenge is defeated. Then we can move to the motion brought by Mr. Cannan.
Is that clear now?
Okay, perhaps we could start the vote again.
(Motion agreed to)
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
If you could listen carefully, Mr. Julian, we'll get the interpretation.
Conservative
Ron Cannan Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC
The motion is to continue this meeting until Mr. Menzies' motion is voted on.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Okay, there's the motion. Let's go to the vote then--recorded.
Yes, Mr. Julian.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's now after one o'clock, so this committee is adjourned.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
We're going to the question on the motion, Mr. Julian.
Perhaps we could go ahead. A recorded division....
Conservative
Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB
If you want to go, that's fine.
(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Okay. The meeting is extended until we have a vote on the motion that was before the committee before.
Mr. Julian has the floor.
A point of order, Mr. Temelkovski.
Liberal
Lui Temelkovski Liberal Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
I think it's unreasonable for us to continue past one o'clock without having some time for lunch.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Can we have food brought in? Okay, we will have food brought in. It might take awhile, but that's a very good point, Mr. Temelkovski, a very important issue.
Mr. Julian, you are debating your proposed amendment--
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
I'll assume, Mr. Chair, I'm excluded from the offer of food.
Conservative
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
When we recessed to Mr. Cannan's motion, which I do not believe was in order, we were discussing the amendments to Mr. Menzies' sledgehammer motion with the six clauses that basically stamp all over the type of committee consideration that we should have as committee members, to have that free and open debate, that in-depth debate, on every aspect of bills that are brought before us. We have that important responsibility--
