Evidence of meeting #35 for International Trade in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was julian.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
If you want to question my decision, we can have a vote on that; we are not going to have a debate on that, Mr. Julian.
One or the other.
Conservative
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
What I am saying is that we have debate, and you realize that--
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Okay, we're going to the vote, recorded division on NDP-1 and NDP-2.
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
You can question my ruling if you like, Mr. Julian, but you're not doing that.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Very simply, Mr. Chair, I believe you have misunderstood me. When I'm talking about the impact of making the adjustment and I--
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
We're now going to the recorded division on amendments NDP-1 and NDP-2.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
No, no, Mr. Chair, I am on a point of order.
I would like to suggest to you--
November 2nd, 2006 / 11:35 a.m.
Conservative
Bill Casey Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS
I'm sorry, we're voting on...?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Mr. Casey, I'm not surprised you don't know where we are. We've been waiting a long time.
We are now voting on amendments NDP-1 and NDP-2. They're together.
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Not when a vote is going on.
(Amendments negatived--[See Minutes of Proceedings])
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Now we're voting on the clause....
We have a point of order from Mr. Julian.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
There is no time limit on points of order, Mr. Chair, and I would like to stress that you cannot cut off debate on amendments. Indeed, we have to have consideration, to make sure all the arguments are brought out for each of these important clauses. Essentially what you're doing by cutting off debate, which is what you did, is infringing upon the ability of the members of this committee to intervene.
Essentially I was talking about the differences between
accounts payable and accounts receivable. This is a very important aspect. Some distinctions might be required, obviously, but to say that the use of this term is a repetition...
Are there courses available about managing accounts payable and accounts receivable? One could spend a whole session discussing nothing else.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Mr. Julian, your point of order is actually out of order. You are raising a point of order on a decision that has already been made, so now we are going to the vote....
Mr. Menzies has a point of order.
Conservative
Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB
I would like to propose a motion that will help move this along. I think we all know what is going on here.
Conservative
Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB
I thought we were finished; I was so excited that we were done.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
We're finished his motion, so we have to vote on the clause now.
What clause are we on? I forget. We are going to the vote on clause 4. It is unamended.
I call the question. It will be a recorded vote.
(Clause 4 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Conservative
Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB
This, Mr. Chair, is in the spirit of accomplishing something here. We are all well aware of what's going on here, and I don't think anybody acting in the role of a parliamentarian representing their constituents is not being heard here today.
In that spirit, Mr. Chair, I would like to move that the total number of minutes of debate per amendment, per member of this committee, be limited up to a maximum of three minutes; and that the committee finish clause-by-clause consideration for Bill C-24 by the end of the day on Tuesday, November 7, 2006; and that all clauses that have no proposals for amendments at this time be voted on together at the start of the meeting on Tuesday, November 7, 2006. There are some prioritized amendments that we would like to put forward at that time, at the beginning. I would also move that Bill C-24 be reported back to the House on Thursday, November 9, 2006.