Natural Resources Committee on Sept. 22nd, 2022

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

No, it was to sustain the ruling of the chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

You tried to change the intention of that vote. Now we have a vote on the floor to adjourn debate.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, all four Conservatives voted in favour of that motion.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Thank you for supporting it.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

That's very conciliatory of you, very conciliatory.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It was to sustain the ruling of the chair.

[Francesco Sorbara, Liberal, Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON]

Clerk, can we move forward and read the names on the roll call, please?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Could we get the clerk to share what the vote was on?

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

The vote is called. Are we voting, yes or no?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You're not letting the clerk speak on the issue of what the vote was on.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

You're not letting anyone speak, Garnett.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'd like to hear from the clerk—

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

I don't think—

It's in a vote. A vote's been called.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—the non-partisan official for this committee.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

This goes through the chair, and the chair is calling the vote on the motion to adjourn, and it's a recorded division, please.

[An hon. member]

Sorry; is it adjourn debate or adjourn the meeting?

[Francesco Sorbara, Liberal, Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON]

It's to adjourn debate on the motion.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, this is quite unprecedented. We had a vote on a challenge to the chair. Your previous ruling was that I was supposed to speak next. There was a challenge to the chair. The committee voted to sustain your ruling, and then you gave the floor to Mr. Sorbara.

How does that make any sense? If the committee voted to sustain the ruling of the chair, then the ruling of the chair is sustained.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

That is why I clarified that the ruling of the chair was to give Mr. Sorbara the next speaking point.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

But it wasn't. You had previously ruled—

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

I clarified that that's what it was.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

But you said earlier in the meeting—

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

I clarified that's what it was. That's what we voted on.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Look, Mr. Chair, I want to come to an understanding here. You said previously—

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

We're debating. You're debating—