Evidence of meeting #55 for Official Languages in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was move.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Julie Boyer  Assistant Deputy Minister, Official Languages, Heritage and Regions, Department of Canadian Heritage
Warren Newman  Senior General Counsel, Constitutional, Administrative and International Law Section, Public Law and Legislative Services Sector, Department of Justice
Karim Adam  Director, Oversight and Compliance, Official Languages Centre of Excellence, People and Culture, Office of the Chief Human Resources Officer, Treasury Board Secretariat
Chantal Terrien  Manager, Modernization of the Official Languages Act, Department of Canadian Heritage
Émilie Thivierge  Legislative Clerk

March 31st, 2023 / 9:50 a.m.

Chantal Terrien Manager, Modernization of the Official Languages Act, Department of Canadian Heritage

Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair.

This is part VIII of the act. It deals with the powers, duties and functions of Treasury Board, and in this context, it's really about the federal government, so it's not about the provincial and territorial governments.

I don't know if my colleague wants to add anything.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

You have the floor, Mr. Adam.

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Director, Oversight and Compliance, Official Languages Centre of Excellence, People and Culture, Office of the Chief Human Resources Officer, Treasury Board Secretariat

Karim Adam

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I might add that the effect of this amendment would be to give Treasury Board the authority to recommend, for example, regulations, or to develop policies and guidelines, in addition to informing federal officials about the application of institutions' official languages obligations.

This therefore gives Treasury Board expanded powers and new obligations in connection with agreements with the provinces and territories.

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Thank you, Mr. Adam.

Are there any other questions or comments?

Mr. Godin, the floor is yours.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I have a quick comment, Mr. Chair.

I will use the image related to teeth again. Right now, I'm looking in my patient's mouth, and I see a little bit of tooth sticking out of the gum, so we'll support the amendment.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Perfect. There being no further comments, I call for the vote on LIB‑30.

You may proceed, Madam Clerk.

(Amendment agreed to; yeas 11; nays 0)

(Clause 25 as amended agreed to)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

We will now move to clause 26 and amendment LIB‑31.

Mr. Drouin, you have the floor.

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Liberal

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

If you recall, I proposed earlier in my LIB‑28 amendment to move “The Treasury Board shall, as part of such mis-” to subclause (3) of clause 25.

Amendment LIB‑31 is related to this.

I move that Bill C‑13 in clause 26, be amended by replacing line 38 on page 17 with the following:

that are prepared under paragraph 46(3)(c).

Current paragraph 46(4)(c) of the bill therefore would no longer exist.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Thank you, Mr. Drouin.

Mr. Godin, you have the floor.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Drouin, your comment is a good one, but I don't think there is a need for an amendment, because the whole bill will be revised with the references, and the correction will happen automatically.

The House legislative clerks will correct the typos. Am I wrong?

I would like to put that question to our legislative clerks. Are they allowed to speak, Mr. Chair?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Before we go any further, I would like to explain that if LIB‑31 passes...

Please give me a few seconds.

Mr. Godin, you may direct your question to the clerk, Ms. Thivierge.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I would simply like to verify what I have stated.

Is it true that you are going to review the entire bill to make sure that it is consistent and that the typos, if there are any, will be corrected?

I think that's your job, but are you going to review the entire bill?

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Émilie Thivierge Legislative Clerk

Thank you for the question.

As legislative clerks, we do not do the linguistic revision of the text of the bill. We only review the amendments. At the reprinting stage, the jurilinguist team is involved, but the interventions are limited. So I couldn't tell you whether this kind of amendment is necessary or not.

The legislative clerks can renumber, but I am not convinced that they can add references because they are subject to Standing Order 156. I know that corrections are made, but I don't know the details.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you, Ms. Thivierge.

This helps us understand the whole process. That's nice, thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Are there any other comments?

Madam Clerk, I call the vote on amendment LIB‑31.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Amendment LIB‑32 is not being moved.

Shall clause 26 of Bill C‑13, as amended, carry?

(Clause 26 as amended agreed to)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Shall clause 27 carry?

(Clause 27 agreed to)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

No amendments were tabled to clause 27.

I am at clause 27 in Bill C‑13.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Me too.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

But maybe not in the same place.

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Some hon. members

Ha, ha!

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Mr. Chair. I have amendment CPC‑42 that refers to clause 27.1.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

It's a new clause.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I'm right behind you, Mr. Chair.

I'm on clause 27, but I forgot it was 27.1.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Clause 27 has passed, which brings us to the proposal of a new clause, clause 27.1.

This brings us to amendment CPC‑42.

Mr. Godin, I'll turn the floor over to you.