Evidence of meeting #40 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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4 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I'm sorry...?

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We're voting on the amendment.

The amendment is to change the motion so that the date is following the consideration....

4 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

[Inaudible—Editor]

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Yes.

All in favour of the amendment? All those opposed?

I think it's defeated.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Go ahead, Mr. MacGregor.

4 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

I will move an amendment to the main motion, and it's a simple one. After the words “Thursday, October 27”, I would simply insert “or as soon as possible”.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

The amendment is in order.

4 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

It's just to give a bit of leeway. I understand that schedules can be a bit demanding, but we do want them here as soon as possible.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Is there debate on Mr. MacGregor's amendment?

Go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Chair, I do appreciate the amendment.

I again want to reiterate that I think it provides the minister and the commissioner an out. They could not be available until after Christmas, for example, and we don't have any accountability mechanism for that. I just wanted to make it very clear that I think this provides an out for those who we are trying to hold accountable.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you.

Next we have Mr. Motz.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Is it possible, Alistair, that rather than “as soon as possible”, we put an end date on the “as soon as possible”? That would be at some time certainly before we have to break, before the end of next week.

4 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

I'm all for that.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

I think that's a subamendment.

Can we do a subamendment?

4 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Not if he chooses to include that in his motion.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

That's a subamendment, I guess.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Or is it a friendly amendment?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Strictly, there's no such thing as a friendly amendment.

If Mr. MacGregor agrees to that amendment....

If you restate it, we'll pretend that's how you moved it.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Mine was the amendment, so I'll let Mr. Motz read out how he will amend my amendment.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Subamendment....

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

He has the wording.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Go ahead.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Mr. Chair, as a subamendment to the amendment by Mr. MacGregor, I would say that “as soon as possible” be deleted and that we put in “by November 1”.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Okay.

On the subamendment, we have Ms. Damoff, please.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I'm a bit confused. It's on Thursday, October 27 or before...?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

It's as soon as possible before November 1.