Evidence of meeting #40 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Before November—

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

That's a week from tomorrow.

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Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Before November 1, you said, Glen...?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

By November 1. That's next Tuesday.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

That provides Friday, Monday, Tuesday—

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Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

—and Wednesday and Thursday this week.

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Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

It just gives us a couple of extra days.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I'm sorry to do this, but could we amend that to “before November 10”?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We can't go any further down the amendment rabbit hole.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Okay.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We're limited to our regular meeting slots. We have Thursday, Tuesday and we have Thursday again. The clerk is checking into possible availability during the break week, but that's what we have right now.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

If I could adjust my subamendment to give more flexibility, to say “by the 3rd”, that gives us 10 days from now to have it completed. That gives us three more meetings after tomorrow's.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Your subamendment to Mr. MacGregor's amendment is that it occur on or after this Thursday.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

It's on or before, such that it's “on or before November 3”.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We're playing a little bit fast and loose with procedure here, but I think we can work with that.

Madam Michaud.

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC

I don't think I can move another subamendment to that.

Would Mr. Motz agree to move the date from November 3 to November 10?

That way, the clerk will also have the week we spend in our constituency. I don't like to sit during the weeks we spend in our constituency because we have so much to do in our respective ridings. That said, if the minister and the commissioner are unavailable, or we don't find room to schedule this meeting, we could meet during our week in our constituency.

I don't know if he's willing to amend his subamendment. If not, I may vote against his subamendment so that I can move a subamendment that says November 10.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Mr. Motz.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

No. I think having the motion read “November 3” gives us four full meetings.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Okay, fair enough.

Is there any further discussion, and are we clear about this subamendment?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Tony Van Bynen Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON

Mr. Chair, could you clarify what we are voting on, please?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Mr. MacGregor made a motion to amend the date to be on the 27th or as soon as possible afterwards. Mr. Motz has modified that, such that it is “on or before November 3”.

Is that fair enough?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Mr. Chair, to be clear, it extends the original motion by an entire week of availability. Now we're looking at 10 days of leeway for the commissioner and the minister to come to committee, which is considerable, compared to the original motion.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you.

Ms. Damoff.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Chair, we wouldn't support what's on the floor, but we would support the change that Kristina proposed to “November 10”.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Okay, fair enough.

We have to have a vote on this subamendment. Is there any further discussion on this subamendment?