Evidence of meeting #67 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I'll resume the meeting.
Mr. Julian has the floor.
Mr. Julian, would you like to reread your amendment?
NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
That will be very different from what I just proposed.
I want to thank the officials for producing the bilingual versions so fast; they are very high quality.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I'm sorry, Mr. Julian.
Mr. Shipley, do you have an issue with translation?
Conservative
Bloc
Conservative
Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON
I hear Taleeb's concern about my attendance at the committee. I've been here virtually the whole time.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
That's not a point of order. We need to keep that off-line.
We're under way with Mr. Julian's amendment, and we need to carry on with it.
Mr. Julian, please carry on.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I have a point of order, Chair.
Mr. Shipley needs headphones if he's going to speak.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Absolutely.
Mr. Shipley, you need your headphones.
Mr. Julian, please continue.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'm pleased to see you, Mr. Shipley.
My amendment deals with subclause 30(3) of Bill C-21. It reads as follows:
Authorizations to carry referred to in paragraph 20(a) are not valid outside the geographic area set in the authorization by Commissioner. Authorizations to carry referred to in paragraph 20(b) are not valid outside the province in which they are issued.
That creates two different ways of dealing with authorizations to carry, for paragraphs 20(a) and 20(b).
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Mr. Julian, do you have that in hard copy, so we can distribute it to the committee?
Is it already distributed? Okay.
Madam Michaud.
Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
Thank you for moving this amendment, Mr. Julian.
Ms. Mainville-Dale, you have answered my question, but I just want to make sure I have understood correctly.
This means that the provincial commissioner has the power to decide the outcome for the individual.
Is that correct?
Acting Director General, Firearms Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Yes, that's correct.
When an individual needs an authorization to carry to protect their life, and let us agree that these are a few rare special cases, the commissioner will be able to establish a geographic range that is suited to their needs.
Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
Perfect.
So it falls within the commissioner's prerogative.
Acting Director General, Firearms Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Yes, that's right.
Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
That's great.
In the written version of Mr. Julian's amendment, there is an "à" missing in the last sentence, after "prévues" and before "l'alinéa".
Thank you.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Thank you.
Can we consider that corrected?
There's an accent missing in Mr. Julian's French version.
Madam Michaud, could you say that again, please?
Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
In the last sentence of the French version, there is an "à" missing between the word prévues" and "l'alinéa" in the segment that reads "l'autorisation de port prévues l'alinéa."
We could correct that before voting on the amendment.
Legislative Clerk
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
There are other corrections that need to be made to the French version of Mr. Julian's amendment.
In the segment that reads "L'autorisation de port prévues," there should not be an "s" on the word "prévues". In the word "établit," the "t" should be replaced by an "e". And again, in the segment that reads "L'autorisation de port prévues," there should not be an "s" on the word "prévues."
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Can we consider that those changes have been made and have been unanimously adopted?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Thank you.
The debate on Mr. Julian's amendment continues.
Is there any further discussion on Mr. Julian's motion?
Mr. Calkins.