Evidence of meeting #74 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
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5:45 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I have a point of order.
Can you move an adjournment motion on a point of order? My understanding is that you need the floor to move an adjournment motion.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Doug Shipley
I don't know about that Mr. Genuis. I'm going to check with my friend to the left here, and I'll let you know.
5:45 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
In fairness, I didn't say that it was a point of order. I asked to be added to the list.
5:45 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I had the floor, and I never ceded it.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Doug Shipley
Mr. Genuis, you did have the floor.
I'm sorry. I thought it was a point of order, Ms. O'Connell, but he did have the floor.
5:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Doug Shipley
I can definitely get you on the list.
Let's just check the list. Right now, Mr. Genuis has the floor. Mr. Lloyd has raised his hand, wanting to speak, and then we have Ms. O'Connell.
Is there anybody else at this point in time? Okay. Thank you.
We'll continue with Mr. Genuis.
5:45 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Although I've been trying to move various motions, I feel that I've actually barely had a chance to speak for an extended period to put on the record what the case we're making is. Notwithstanding the call for adjournment, I would like to be able to very clearly do that.
Conservatives have been putting before this committee the view that, following the transfer of Paul Bernardo to medium-security—
5:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Doug Shipley
Mr. Genuis, if you could stick to Bill C-20, please, that would be appreciated.
5:45 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Yes, I will speak to the motion, and I will speak to the rationale for why the motion is important.
5:50 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.
First, could we have the most current motion in terms of extending the study for Bill C-20, which is what I understood?
5:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Doug Shipley
We'll be able to sit around and chat some more because we'll ask Mr. Genuis if he could send us that motion, please—the latest one that we don't haves.
5:50 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I could. I've read it out verbally, so there's no requirement for it to be—
5:50 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
I would like to know what the motion is on the floor.
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Conservative
5:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Doug Shipley
Mr. Genuis, can you make sure that you speak only when I'm addressing you, please? Thank you.
5:50 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
It's that the committee invite additional witnesses to appear in regard to Bill C-20 and that any new amendments to the bill be submitted to the clerk within 48 hours of the completion of the agreed-upon witness meetings.
5:50 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
I have a point of order.
I would argue again that the debate that is about to happen needs to stick to the motion that the member himself moved, which is extending the meeting for Bill C-20. I would argue that any other committee business is outside of the scope of his own motion.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Doug Shipley
Thank you, Ms. O'Connell.
I will do my very best to keep it to that. I can't make him move his lips to my...but I will do my best.
5:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Doug Shipley
That is your right and prerogative too, Ms. O'Connell.
I have Ms. Ferreri on a point of order.
5:50 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Ferreri Conservative Peterborough—Kawartha, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'm not 100% sure on this. Mr. Bittle asked the committee if we had heard from victims' families, and I do have the letters here from the victims' families. I'm happy to read them into the record. It's why I'm here. I'm not going to stop saying that. I could read that into the record, because he did ask the committee for that.
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Liberal