Evidence of meeting #77 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was commission.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
The debate shall now ensue on the subamendment.
Did you wish to speak more to it?
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
Our witness has been very eloquent on this.
What I seek to do is make the language stronger. This committee rejected the first amendment, and we're now on the second amendment. I think it can be bolstered and rendered stronger, so I would propose that subamendment in order to accomplish that.
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Liberal
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Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
Mr. Chair, could Mr. Julian perhaps specify where in the wording he would like to replace certain words? If he could specify exactly where it is in the French version, I would appreciate it.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
The wording proposed in the subamendment would begin with "In making recommendations for appointments of members of the Commission, the Minister must seek to reflect", rather than "the Governor in Council".
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Liberal
Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON
I was going to propose a different subamendment, so I will wait.
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Liberal
Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON
My question is for the legislative clerk. In terms of subbing in “Minister” for “Governor in Council”, is there any impact? Does this go against traditional forms of drafting, or does it matter at all?
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Liberal
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NDP
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Yes, very well. Can we do that as a recorded vote, please?
(Subamendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)
The subamendment is defeated.
Mr. Gaheer.
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Liberal
Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON
Thank you, Chair.
We support the amendment with a subamendment, and I think this subamendment achieves a level of balance, especially in line with what the witnesses have been saying. It reflects what the government is proposing in other bills, and it also doesn't overly constrain the Governor in Council either.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON
In the new subamendment, in the first line before the comma, I would change it to “in making recommendations for appointments of members of the Commission”.
This language also mirrors what's found in Bill C-40, which deals with the miscarriage of justice reviews. This way we can ensure consistency amongst federal review agencies.
11:50 a.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair, we're going to have wording changes, as we did before, so we should be able to move on. We can write it out, but this is going to happen throughout the process of this—