Evidence of meeting #49 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marc Grégoire  Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
Louis Ranger  Deputy Minister, Department of Transport
André Morency  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Transport

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Conservative

Lawrence Cannon Conservative Pontiac, QC

Exactly.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Can that amount be found in any particular program? Is that amount part of a program or fund?

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Conservative

Lawrence Cannon Conservative Pontiac, QC

Mr. Bélanger, one of the recommendations put forward by the panel ordered to review the NCC mandate deals precisely with the issue of the use of state property by public institutions.

You are asking if there's a program. I am replying that as we move to implement the panel's recommendations relative to reviewing the NCC mandate, we will be dealing with that issue.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

I can therefore presume that there is no program or fund?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Transport

Louis Ranger

Treasury Board is a cabinet committee, and a decision has been made.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

All government expenditures are usually registered in a program, and Treasury Board attaches conditions, correct?

Is this transfer subject to any conditions?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Transport

Louis Ranger

The conditions are the same as for the department's ordinary expenditures.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

I want to come back to that, but I'd like to know if there is a specific duration. Is it the same as a lease? Has the transfer been done?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Transport

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Can you tell me whether the lease was renewed?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Transport

André Morency

I think that the lease—

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

The lease will expire in 2013.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Transport

André Morency

They renewed the lease until 2013.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

No, the lease was already in existence. Was the lease extended?

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Conservative

Lawrence Cannon Conservative Pontiac, QC

Do you mean beyond 2013?

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Yes.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Transport

André Morency

When the lease expires in 2013, it will be renewed. It amounted to $1 per year.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Does Transport Canada enjoy similar conditions? What is the relation between Transport Canada and the NCC with regard to the extension? Is there a different figure?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Transport

André Morency

At this time it is an annual transfer to the NCC budget.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

How much does it amount to?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Transport

André Morency

The transfer amounts to $23,000.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

What will happen after 2013?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Transport

André Morency

That will have to be determined at that time.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Are you telling me that it has not been determined?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Transport

André Morency

We know that up to 2013, it will be $23,000 a year.