House of Commons Hansard #69 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was meeting.

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Youth Criminal Justice Act Second reading of Bill C-231. The bill amends the Youth Criminal Justice Act to allow courts to refer young people struggling with addiction to treatment programs. It aims to prioritize rehabilitation over punishment for youth facing drug-related charges, enabling judges to delay sentencing pending treatment completion. Luc Berthold advocates this approach, seeing addiction as a mental health issue to be treated early. 8000 words, 1 hour.

Budget 2025 Implementation Act, No. 1 Second reading of Bill C-15. The bill implements budget provisions, drawing Conservative criticism as a "credit card budget" that increases debt and the cost of living. Conservatives also raise concerns about a provision allowing ministers to grant "regulatory exemptions" and the lack of support for small businesses. Liberals argue the budget "strikes a balance" by investing in social programs and "creating jobs", while accusing the opposition of "filibustering legislation". Bloc members question the lack of "cell coverage" investment and the absence of a "digital services tax". 15600 words, 2 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives condemn the Liberal government for soaring grocery prices, citing an expected $1,000 increase and widespread food insecurity. They attribute this to inflationary taxes and spending. The party also criticizes Liberals for blocking pipelines to the Pacific and the tanker ban, urging support for a motion to approve a pipeline.
The Liberals highlight Budget 2025's tax cuts for 22 million Canadians, emphasizing investments in jobs, housing, and infrastructure to grow the economy. They defend the Canada child benefit and the national school food program, while also promoting measures like open banking for affordability. They support the entire MOU on energy, accusing Conservatives of division. The party also prioritizes combating hate crimes and protecting seniors from fraud.
The Bloc criticizes the government for sabotaging Bill C-9 and failing to abolish the religious exemption for hate speech, accusing Liberals of cancelling committee meetings. They also demand more action against Driver Inc. truckers and the exploitation of drivers.
The NDP urges the Liberals to treat Inuit as partners and develop Nunavut's underdeveloped fishery.

Liaison Members debate the systematic obstruction of parliamentary committees by the Liberal government, citing examples of cancelled meetings, ministerial absences, filibustering of government bills, and the failure to advance key legislation like bail reform. Liberals counter that Conservatives are also obstructing the budget implementation bill and other legislation, accusing them of political theatre and a lack of co-operation. 20300 words, 2 hours.

Liaison Members debate the Liberal government's alleged obstruction of parliamentary committees, with Conservatives citing frequent cancellation of meetings and ministers refusing to appear or provide information. Conservatives accuse the government of lacking accountability and transparency, while Liberals argue the opposition is filibustering important budget legislation. The role of committee chairs and ministerial responsibility are key points of contention. 6100 words, 45 minutes.

Petitions

Adjournment Debates

Canada's Net-zero targets Elizabeth May criticizes the government's climate record, calling net-zero by 2050 a fraud that ignores the need for rapid emissions cuts. Corey Hogan acknowledges more needs to be done, emphasizing the importance of investment and technology to achieve net-zero and reverse climate damage, defending budget 2025.
Trans Mountain pipeline project Marc Dalton accuses the Prime Minister of flip-flopping on pipelines and failing to support Canadian energy exports. Corey Hogan defends the government's balanced approach to resource development, emphasizing environmental responsibility, indigenous consultation, and collaboration with provinces. Dalton insists Canadians cannot wait any longer.
U.S. Trade Relations Jacob Mantle questions the government's strategy concerning U.S. tariffs, specifically regarding the VOS Selections case. Corey Hogan agrees the case's outcome won't solve trade issues, as other measures are in place. Mantle and Hogan concur that striking down IEEPA wouldn't provide relief but could increase pressure for negotiation.
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Bill C-231 Youth Criminal Justice ActPrivate Members' Business

December 8th, 2025 / 11 a.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L’Érable—Lotbinière, QC

moved that Bill C‑231, An Act to amend the Youth Criminal Justice Act, be read the second time and referred to a committee.

Mr. Speaker, it is with a broken heart that I rise in the House today for the second reading of my private member's bill, the friends of David bill, to amend the Youth Criminal Justice Act. I am heartbroken because, as the name suggests, I am doing this for the friends of my son David, who is no longer with us today. This bill is not going to change anything about his own journey, the choices he made or the great void he leaves behind.

Although we continue to mourn his untimely passing, my wife Caro and I decided that, rather than standing idly by, we should try to do our small part to help those who I call David's friends, all the young teenagers who, at some point, gave in to the temptation of drugs. My heart is broken because I do not know whether I should tell David's story. He was a bright young man who was always willing to lend a hand, as well as a protective older brother to his two younger sisters. He was curious and strong, always wanting to try everything for himself, thinking that he would always remain in control of his decisions and that he could try everything without any consequences for himself or others. He was an addict. Despite how confident he seemed, he always needed someone or something to help him get through the day. We will never know his full story because the illness he may have been suffering from was never diagnosed. It was covered up by all the drugs and substances he had to take to remain the David who was not afraid of anything, but who was always anxious when it came time to take action.

Yes, Bill C-231 is very personal for me and my wife. It is not easy for us to talk about David in front of everyone, putting on display our weaknesses and his, our life and what our life might have been. We decided to do it anyway, because if we are silent, there will be other Davids, other parents who will not know what to do, other children who will grow up without their father, and other wives who must go on without their husband.

The story of David and his friends is the story of young people who, as teenagers, discover in drugs a way to hide their profound unhappiness. Using drugs just for fun becomes the doctor they did not see, the medications they did not take, the solution society was not able to offer them. Let me be clear: A young man using marijuana for fun with his friends once in a while is not a lost cause. Kids will be kids, as the saying goes, and an occasional joint has not prevented the majority of young people from going on to have a good life, build a successful career, and find happiness. I am not some old fogey who thinks that banning everything is the only way to make the world better. Everyone who goes through an ordeal like this agrees that a joint from time to time does not hurt anyone.

However, that is not true for everyone. Some young people have no idea, when they take their first puff, that one day they will not be able to manage without it. It will not be enough, and they will become addicted for the rest of their lives. It is for this handful of young people who will not figure this out until it is too late that we decided to act. Our first action, while we are still mourning David's death, is this bill, which seeks to change things and give those young people a chance to have a future.

Here are some of the questions the parents of David's friends are asking themselves. How can we change things? What went wrong? What did we miss as parents? Are the schools we entrust with educating our children and preparing them to become adults doing a good job? Do we want to help these youth or punish them so as not to “contaminate” others around them? Does the health system have the tools to deal with the reality of these young people? These are questions that keep running through our minds.

That brings me back to Bill C‑231. Can minors be compelled to undergo treatment? When students turn 14, schools are not allowed to call the parents to discuss their health issues, but they can call the police to have them arrested. The police can arrest minors and take them before a judge for illegal possession of drugs. If the minors appear before a judge, they will almost always be sent back to school with a slap on the wrist without anyone trying to understand how they got into this situation in the first place. The bottom line is that we treat the wound without looking at the story behind it. We tend to dress the visible wound and neglect the more critical injuries.

The parents of the David' friends are not blind. They can clearly see that something is off. However, it is not always as obvious as one might think. Many people think it is just a passing phase that kids go through. We choose not to see the small changes taking place in our kids' lives. Over time, the parents of the David's friends get more concerned and they look for help from family physicians, special education teachers at school, social workers, anonymous help lines or friends who have gone through similar situations. I think any of these are good actions. Everyone involved needs to face a difficult reality: If a teen refuses to listen, fails to acknowledge they have a problem or is unable to face reality, those wanting to help are left with no option but to step back and leave them to their own devices.

The police and prosecutors now rarely arrest and charge young people for drug possession. Marijuana is legal, there is a high burden of proof and the justice system is overwhelmed. The parents of David's friends are left to fend for themselves while the friends of David have no idea where they are headed. That is why my wife and I are calling on my colleagues to support Bill C-231 for the friends of David.

This is a straightforward bill. It gives the police and judges additional options when a young person is arrested and taken to court under the Youth Criminal Justice Act. The bill would allow them to refer the youth to an addiction treatment program, delay sentencing until after the end of the addiction treatment and take into account the youth's compliance with the program at final sentencing.

The current law allows a judge to order a young person into an intensive support and supervision program. That is what the law says. However, it does not specifically mention drug treatment programs. After consulting with police officers, I realized that many of them do not want to prosecute young people who are struggling with substance abuse. They feel that a slap on the wrist, the police showing up, that is enough. That slap on the wrist no longer really hurts, however, and police officers often feel that the justice system will not really help these young people anyway. However, in my opinion, the opposite should happen. This bill will encourage young people to recover from their addiction, rather than punishing them for being addicted. Most importantly, we want to prevent minors from turning to crime to support their addiction by becoming drug dealers in order to have the means to afford the remedy that society has been unable to give them.

By passing Bill C-231, MPs will send a clear message to judges that drug treatment should be a priority. By passing Bill C-231, MPs will send a clear message to law enforcement that when a young person is brought before a judge, it is not to punish them, but rather to offer them a way out so they can heal. By passing Bill C-231, MPs will be sending a clear message to people in the educational system that action needs to be taken rather than turning a blind eye and doing nothing in the hopes that it is just a passing phase. By passing Bill C-231, MPs will send a message to David's friends that drug use that leads to addiction is not just another crime, but rather an illness that can be treated with appropriate care.

Bill C‑231 for David's friends is not reinventing the wheel. The adult criminal justice system already allows judges to reserve their sentence after imposing an addiction treatment program. Why not open this possibility to minors, for whom early treatment could change their whole lives, before they turn to crime as a way to afford their damn drugs? The House can send a message to thousands of young Canadians who are still minors that their country cares about them and that they can count on their elected representatives to pave the way toward a happy future free from the clutches of addiction.

I could have filled my speech with statistics on the number of young people who use drugs, drugs of all types. I could have talked about the alarming figures on fentanyl, which is ravaging our major cities. I could have talked about the number of overdoses, which kill thousands of young adults every year. I do not need to provide numbers. I am simply asking people to open their eyes and see what is happening around us, especially with homelessness and drug use in the streets and near schools. Once that image is clear in their minds, I ask them to imagine that it is their child. Would they too hope that society could have intervened on that child's behalf at an age when it was still possible to make a difference? I think the answer to that question alone is worth more than all the statistics I could have spent 10 minutes rattling off to demonstrate the scope of the problem we are facing.

In any event, the statistics do not exist. I tried to find out more about the number of drug users who are minors, the treatments available to them, the number of admissions, the number of relapses following treatment, but it is like the Tower of Babel. Each province has its own program, its own methods for managing addiction. Some provinces perform very well, others not well at all.

Additionally, in preparing my speech for today, I wanted to know whether I was on the wrong track. I am not a doctor, and my wife is not a social worker, so I organized a round table with representatives from the Canadian Alliance on Mental Illness and Mental Health. I found this reassuring, but also worrying, given the discussions we had around the table. I can say right off the bat that no one felt I was heading in the wrong direction with Bill C-231 for David's friends.

The World Health Organization defines addiction as “an uncontrollable urge to consume a substance (alcohol or drugs) and a tendency to increase the dose, resulting in a psychological and sometimes physical dependency. The continuation of the abusive use of substances has adverse effects on the physical, emotional, social and economic health of individuals and their families.”

I find that definition too simplistic, and unfortunately, it is often used to guide health decisions around the world. It defines addiction by its consequences on people with addiction, so it is a definition of the effects of addiction. What is missing is simple. Drug addiction must be recognized for what it is: a mental health problem. Drug addiction is a mental health problem like any other health problem and it can be treated.

I am not saying it can be cured. I am saying that people with addiction, particularly young people, should have access to treatment as early as possible in their addiction journey in order to treat their illness before it takes over their entire lives. It should also be just as easy to access treatment as it is for drug users to get access to drugs. I can personally attest to the fact that this is not the case.

It is hard to get access to health professionals. Sometimes, there are months-long wait times to get an appointment with a psychologist, a psychiatrist or physician. Public treatment programs are not available in all regions. There are waiting lists while private treatment centres are costly and prohibitively expensive for young people and their families. These young people are already ruined financially due to addiction while their parents are burdened with the substantial financial toll of their children's addiction.

There are immense challenges and time is running out. I know full well that Bill C-231 will be but a drop in the ocean in the world of narcotics, but we know we have to start somewhere. A good starting point is recognizing that the Youth Criminal Justice Act should not treat all young addicts as offenders but as people who are sick and cannot take care of themselves. A judge would never send a young person streaked in blood to prison first before sending them to hospital to have their injuries treated. Why then do we send them to youth addiction centres without giving them treatment for their mental injuries?

The consequences of doing nothing are serious. For our family, for my wife and me, Bill C-231 could perhaps have made a big difference for our son, David, who took his own life on February 10, 2025, leaving our grandsons fatherless and his partner a widow far too early. We still miss him terribly. Even though with time, we have come to better understand everything that my son went though, we will never understand the terrible thing he did to himself and to those he loved. We are angry at the system for not helping him. We are angry at society for not facing up to its responsibilities, and we are angry at ourselves for failing to take action. Bill C-231 is also a special tribute to one of David's friends who also took his own life shortly after David did because he was unable to overcome his grief and his demons.

I am asking my esteemed colleagues to make this small change for all the friends of David, all those who suffer in silence, who seek solace and answers in drugs and who may not have access to the care they need. Let us do it so that the justice system can force the hand of all government bodies so that young people finally have access to help. I need my fellow members to talk openly about addiction, to be part of the solution for all the friends of David across the country. On behalf of David, my wife Caro and my entire family, I am asking all members to support Bill C-231.

Bill C-231 Youth Criminal Justice ActPrivate Members' Business

11:15 a.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

Once again, on behalf of the House, I want to convey my sincere condolences to the member.

The hon. member for Winnipeg North.

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11:15 a.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, first and foremost, I extend to my friend across the way condolences on the loss of David, as well as a special shout-out to his wife, Caro.

I know that this has been a very difficult time. Prior to having this discussion, we had a very short chat regarding the issue. It is admirable that we have substantive legislation before us that would send a very powerful message of caring and wanting to do what we can as legislators. I appreciate that.

I had the chance to go over the legislation, and the question I have for the member is this. To what degree is he open to having some favourable amendments to provide assurances that we are moving in the right direction if we can get the bill to the committee stage?

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11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L’Érable—Lotbinière, QC

Mr. Speaker, everything we can do as a House to improve the lives of our children, everything we can do to improve this bill and make it more effective for our children, I am open to hearing about. I cannot be alone in this fight. I need all of my colleagues to be part of this, to show young people in this country that the House cares about them.

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11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Côte-du-Sud—Rivière-du-Loup—Kataskomiq—Témiscouata, QC

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his moving speech. Of course, our thoughts are with him and his family following the loss of his son.

I recently had an opportunity to speak with a nurse from Rimouski who works in a hospital emergency department. She told me that fentanyl is becoming a serious problem, even in the regions, along with marijuana, of course, since it was legalized. My colleague referred to that. New and increasingly more powerful drugs are finding their way here on a regular basis, which can make it harder for young people to break free from addiction.

Will my colleague's bill give judges the opportunity to expedite the process so that people can get help?

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11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L’Érable—Lotbinière, QC

Mr. Speaker, the purpose of Bill C-231 is to enable judges to get young people into treatment, but also to remind judges and the entire justice system that treatments are available and that a young drug user is not necessarily a criminal. A young drug user may be someone suffering from an undiagnosed or undetected mental illness. Drugs become the remedy that society has failed to provide to these young people.

I am convinced that if we can intervene as soon as possible, before young people start using fentanyl or harder drugs, as was the case with David, then we can turn their lives around. That is why we must not wait until young people are in the justice system as repeat offenders before offering them the chance to get treated. We have to intervene as soon as possible.

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11:15 a.m.

Bloc

Marie-Hélène Gaudreau Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Mr. Speaker, my colleague has shown such courage, but not only that, he is taking concrete action as well. Earlier, my colleague mentioned that this might just be a drop in the ocean. I disagree.

Having worked in addictions treatment and prevention for years, I believe that this bill will make a big difference, and my colleague needs to know that. It is easy enough to see physical or visible suffering, but when someone is suffering from mental health issues, that is invisible. My colleague is taking an important step with this bill.

I wonder if he agrees with me that our organizations will need health transfers in order to have all the resources they need to help our minors.

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11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L’Érable—Lotbinière, QC

Mr. Speaker, my colleague talked about courage, but I am talking about resilience. I am here, we are here, and we did not ask to be here. We are going through this like many parents are. I can say that many parents have gone through these trials since this happened to us, but they do not have the privilege that I have, as a member of Parliament, to be able to talk about it and raise awareness.

I am not yet ready to talk about specific amounts. I mentioned that in my speech: There are so many disparities between the different provinces that everything will not be solved with a wave of a magic wand. However, we must send a signal that we are going to take care of it.

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11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Jessica Fancy-Landry Liberal South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Mr. Speaker, I want to begin by acknowledging my colleague, the member for Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière, for his courage in bringing forward Bill C-231, the friends of David act. His openness in sharing his family's tragic experience reminds us that every policy discussion in this House must remain centred on real people, real families and, unfortunately, sometimes real loss. I extend my heartfelt condolences to him and his loved ones.

Before entering public life, I spent many years working as an educator and administrator. In that role, I saw children and young people carry in their backpacks burdens that are far heavier than any child should ever have to carry. Addiction, especially in youth, is not an individual struggle. It becomes a family struggle. It reshapes homes, disrupts education and pushes parents into impossible positions where they must become caregivers, counsellors, caseworkers and crisis response teams all at once. Those experiences stay with us. They shape how we see policy and remind us that behind every bill, every motion and every debate in this chamber, there is a young person who simply wants a chance to be well.

In my constituency work in South Shore—St. Margarets, that truth comes up again and again. I have sat with families that are exhausted from navigating fragmented systems. I have spoken with youth whose involvement in the justice system began only after their addiction had gone untreated, sometimes for years. I have heard from parents who are on wait-lists for services that should never have to be wait-listed at all. One mother told me that loving a child with addiction feels like breathing with only half a lung. Another said every day is a mix of hope and fear, hope that their child will finally get the help needed and fear that the window for help might close.

Those stories guide me as I reflect on my colleague's bill, Bill C-231, and the important issue it raises about treatment and rehabilitation for young people involved in the youth justice system. The heart of this bill seeks a deeply human question: How do we make sure that young people struggling with addiction get the right supports at the right time? That is the question I believe this House must focus on.

We know that the Youth Criminal Justice Act already contains pathways for treatment, whether through diversion, integrated case planning, probation conditions or delayed sentencing when appropriate, but the reality in too many parts of this country is that the services themselves are not always there when they are needed. A law can direct a young person to treatment, a judge can recommend it, a family can beg for it, but if the treatment does not exist or the wait-lists are months long or transportation is impossible or aftercare is inconsistent, then we are setting young people up for failure, those who need help the most.

For me, this bill is an opportunity. It is an opportunity to talk about strengthening access, strengthening coordination and ensuring that youth who come into contact with the justice system do so in a way that leads to stability and not toward deeper harm. It is also important that we maintain flexibility, so that every young person's unique needs can be met. Some will require addiction treatment. Others will need trauma-informed therapies, mental health supports or longer-term residential care. Many will need wraparound programs that continue, like family counselling, cultural supports or aftercare that extends beyond the courtroom. We cannot take a one-size-fits-all approach when it comes to youth, something I have said for years. Their lives, their experiences and their healing journeys are way too diverse.

As this bill continues through the legislative process, I believe our work should focus on ensuring that youth have timely access to services and the laws that direct them toward it, that judges retain the ability to tailor conditions to the needs of each individual youth, that treatment is part of a holistic rehabilitative program rather than a stand-alone obligation, and that, most importantly, aftercare, such as community programs and family supports, is recognized as an essential component of recovery, not just optional ones.

Treatment is not a single event. Treatment is a pathway. For too many young people, that pathway is broken long before they step into a courtroom. I saw it many times in my classroom or in the offices when I was an administrator. As someone who spent time with both educators and families, someone whose community includes youth who are struggling right now, and someone who has walked alongside parents who carry the fear of losing their child every day, I want this to be unequivocal: Young people deserve every possible chance to heal, recover and rebuild their lives.

Our role, for every one of us in this chamber, is to make sure that the systems surrounding them actually make that possible. This is what my colleague is trying to do with his bill. If this bill helps bring us closer to a more compassionate, responsible and supportive youth justice system, then we owe it to our young people across the country to work together and to get this right.

We cannot change the past that brought so many youth into this justice system, but we can change what happens next. We can ensure that, when a young person reaches out for help or when a court directs them to help, that help is truly there. That is the responsibility we hold. It is the work that is ahead of us, and it is what young people in Canada deserve.

I support the work of my colleague.

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11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Marie-Hélène Gaudreau Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Madam Speaker, as Parliament winds down before the break, we are working very hard, and I appreciate your efforts. I also appreciate the outstanding work of my colleague from Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière. I mentioned to him earlier how valuable it is.

There is a lot of noise, Madam Speaker. This is a very—

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11:30 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes

I will have someone check to see what is going on in the lobbies.

The hon. member for Laurentides—Labelle.

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11:30 a.m.

Bloc

Marie-Hélène Gaudreau Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Madam Speaker, this is not an easy subject, but it is important to talk about it. I told my colleague earlier how resilient and courageous he is. He is taking action and wants to make things better. For those who did not hear his speech, I will try to explain what Bill C-231 is all about.

The bill seeks to amend the Youth Criminal Justice Act to clarify the measures governing addiction treatment programs for young persons. This would allow courts to delay sentencing to enable the young person to participate in an addiction treatment program. The bill also provides that failing or refusing to comply with treatment conditions cannot by itself result in detention. My colleague can rest assured that the Bloc Québécois will vote in favour of a bill that will help save lives. I am thinking of David and David's friends, and I am thinking of Caro and my colleague, because Christmas is right around the corner, and that is always a major milestone. I am glad that we already talking about it in 2025, so we can take action as quickly as possible.

My colleague is right to say that the “war on drugs” approach does not work. I can speak to this because, when I first started out in my career way back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, I was involved in psychosocial intervention in the areas of drug addiction and suicide prevention. At that time, things were very different than they are today, as frontline workers would go directly to the scene whenever an incident was reported. Today, tighter security is required because there are increased concerns and complications when a mental health issue, including drug and psychotropic use, goes undiagnosed. It became clear to me when I was 20 that people should not be punished; rather, they should be supported and listened to so that they can receive the necessary care.

I would also like to say that for a number of years, I have almost always had a naloxone kit with me. As elected representatives, we are often in contact with crowds at events, and we never know when a situation may arise. I would encourage all my colleagues to get a kit, as naloxone is an extremely valuable antidote than can save a life in the event of an overdose.

This gives me an opportunity to share that in the years that followed, I made sure that the community organizations where I lived had as many tools as possible to help teens and young adults. I commend the work done in Quebec by the organization Mesures alternatives, which has locations throughout the province. The one I am most familiar with is Mesures alternatives des Vallées du Nord. I wish to recognize Marc‑André Roy in particular. I do not know how long he has worked there, but I do know that his focus is prevention, and I am sure the statistics reflect some solid results. Although my colleague did not wish to present any statistics, I think it would be a good idea to compile the current data so that once the bill is passed, the impact on prevention efforts can be measured. We can say already that Quebec has an advantage in the form of its 2018-20 national strategy for psychoactive substance overdose prevention, which aligns perfectly with the steps proposed by my colleague in his action plan.

First and foremost, we must educate people and raise their awareness. That is what we are doing today. That is important. Second, we need to prevent overdoses and re-educate people about harmful effects. That means we need to address the underlying causes of drug use. My colleague put it very clearly: People use drugs recreationally, but there are also those who use drugs as a crutch because they are suffering. Obviously, that is what we are dealing with today. We need to produce legislation, along with public policies and regulations. We need to have monitoring and surveillance. This bill will allow us to collect information and to have the tools needed to ensure that our young people receive the support they need. Obviously, we also need research, training and addiction treatment. I spoke about naloxone a few minutes ago, but naloxone is an emergency antidote for use in exceptional circumstances. There are many other treatments that I will not speak to this morning.

Obviously, there is treatment of pain. Sometimes, people use cannabis to relieve physical pain, while others use it for mental pain. We need to speak about that too, and I have seen that more and more people are willing to do so. Men and women of all ages are increasingly opening up about their pain. Suffering is not something that can be measured; it is something each of us experiences differently.

I would therefore like to commend my colleague for his very moving speech. If he needs a hand at any time to fine-tune this life-saving bill, we are here for him. It is very sad that David will not be here this Christmas, but the action we are taking here will have an impact, and it will not just be a drop in the ocean. On the contrary, it is a small step that will turn into a big step, and it will help all young people, particularly those experiencing major challenges.

With the two minutes I have left, I am going to share some statistics. As my colleague said, the opioid crisis caused 20 deaths a day in Canada in 2024. That adds up to 53,821 opioid-related deaths, according to data from March 2025. Men are more likely than women to die from an opioid overdose. In 2024, Quebec ranked fourth in terms of opioid-related deaths, with 645 deaths. Even one death is too many. I explained the approach being used in Quebec. Considering the reduction it achieved in deaths from opioid overdoses, I hope that all the other provinces and territories will consider using it too.

I thank my colleagues, and I want to take this opportunity to wish them all a happy holiday. I also want to wish my colleague a lot of courage and compassion.

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11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Abbotsford, BC

Madam Speaker, I rise today to respond to my colleague's deeply moving remarks about Bill C-231, the friends of David act. First, I commend him for having the courage to share such a personal story in the House. My colleague's words remind us that behind the statistics are families, communities and broken dreams. The story of the member's son David is not only heartbreaking, it is a call to action.

This bill seeks to amend the Youth Criminal Justice Act so that judges and law enforcement can send youths struggling with addiction to treatment programs rather than strictly imposing punitive measures. The aim is not to excuse crimes, but to recognize that addiction is a health issue and that early intervention is needed to turn lives around before it is too late.

In British Columbia, we are living through a public health emergency that shows no sign of slowing down. Since the province declared the overdose crisis in 2016, more than 14,000 British Columbians have died from toxic, unregulated drugs. This year alone, B.C. is on track to surpass 2,000 deaths, the highest ever recorded. That means that six people die every day in one province. That's six lives, six families shattered.

These are not just adults. Youth are increasingly at risk. According to the BC Coroners Service, about 10% of overdose deaths involve individuals under 29, and many start using substances in their early teens. The Canadian Student Alcohol and Drugs Survey shows that the average age of first cannabis use is 14, and nearly half of students say cannabis is easy to obtain. For some, that first puff is not harmless. It can be the first step toward dependency and, tragically, toward fentanyl-laced substances.

When the member from Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière speaks of David's friends, he is not referring to a small circle of acquaintances. He is speaking about thousands of young Canadians, boys and girls who are walking the same dangerous path. These are teenagers who turn to substances, not out of rebellion but out of pain. For them, drugs become the doctor they never met, the therapy they never accessed and the solution society failed to provide. David's friends are not criminals at heart. They are patients who do not know they are sick, yet under the current system, if they refuse help and deny their problem, we often abandon them to their fate.

Bill C-231 changes that. It gives judges and police the ability to open a door instead of closing one, to offer treatment instead of punishment. Every time we fail to act, another David is lost, another family grieves, and another group of friends wonder what they could have done. Supporting the bill, and I am so encouraged by the remarks so far this morning, means telling David's friends across Canada that we see them, that we care and that we will fight for their future.

Bill C-231 offers a practical solution. It does not reinvent the wheel. It simply extends to youth what already exists for adults, the ability to defer sentencing while a person completes an addiction treatment program. This approach saves lives. It gives young people a chance to heal before they become entrenched in criminal activity or fall victim to the toxic drug supply.

Let us be clear. Addiction is not a complete moral failure. It is a health issue, and when a young person is arrested for a drug-related offence, that moment can be a turning point, a chance to intervene, to connect them with care and to prevent another obituary.

As a society, we have a moral imperative to do more than speak words of compassion. We must turn those words into action. It is not enough to express concern while young lives are lost. We must offer real solutions, and I really do truly believe that we are doing that today.

We must develop those programs that match the urgency of our rhetoric, programs that meet young people where they are and give them a path forward. Bill C-231 is not the final answer, but it is a step in the right direction, a step toward a justice system that heals instead of harms and that recognizes addiction as an illness rather than a crime.

By passing the bill, we will affirm that Canada will not abandon youth in despair. In fact, we will improve our laws for youth. We can affirm that prevention and treatment are not luxuries but a necessity in our public health system. Every day we delay, another family grieves and another David is lost. Another group of friends wonder what they could have done. Supporting the bill means telling David's friends across Canada that we see them, that we care, and that we will make a level step forward to improve the system in our country.

For David, his friends and the thousands of young Canadians whose lives are at risk, let us make this change. Every day we delay is a day that more families will experience the pain that the member for Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière experienced and so courageously shared with us today.

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11:45 a.m.

Liberal

Stéphane Lauzon Liberal Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation, QC

Madam Speaker, first and foremost, I want to offer my condolences to my colleague across the way and to his entire family. An incident like this does not go unnoticed. I was a teacher for at least two decades, and I saw situations deteriorate right before my eyes for certain groups of students. Teachers are still only allowed to speak to parents if the student gives consent. It is extremely difficult for teachers to cope with these conditions.

I rise today because this topic is very important to me. I deeply respect my colleague for having the courage to come share this in the House in the hope of improving the situation. This topic is extremely important not only to me, but to all Canadians, I am sure. Regardless of an individual's family situation, no one is sheltered from issues such as drugs, fentanyl, peer pressure and mental health. During my years as a teacher and as a coach, I saw athletes who could have performed very well at the national and international level get off track because of peer pressure, drugs and other substances that can disrupt the life of a young person, the life of a family, the life of everyone.

Bill C-231 is a bill brought forward by my colleague that pertains to the Youth Criminal Justice Act, or YCJA. I have a daughter who is in the throes of adolescence, so I cannot be indifferent to this. I have had occasion to try to keep a closer eye on her. We know that children will have their own experiences. We have little or no control over that, but I am thankful for what life teaches. We have still been able to keep an extremely close eye on the kids, but it is not because of us, their parents. I would like tell my colleague opposite that as parents, we do our best, but we cannot control all the experiences our children have to go through in life.

Bill C-231 proposes some changes to the YCJA in order to facilitate access to addiction treatment programs for young persons struggling with addiction who come into contact with the criminal justice system. In particular, this bill would amend the YCJA to clarify the measures governing addiction treatment programs and to authorize youth justice courts to delay sentencing in some scenarios so that young persons are able to participate in an addiction treatment program.

My colleague talked about treatments in his speech. There are many that can be used to prevent this. There are many treatments available to help with the illness of drug use. However, we can do better. Our government aims to prioritize permanent approaches for keeping young people away from criminal activities. As my colleague also mentioned, drug use comes with bad habits. It is a vicious circle. If people want to use drugs, they have to get drugs. To get drugs, they have to enter a world that is not exactly legal. It is a vicious circle. Our government seeks to prioritize that approach.

The basic principles of this bill promote accountability through measures that offer positive outlooks as well as rehabilitation for social reintegration. It also promotes the use of diversion measures for less severe crimes in order to cut down on the overuse of detention and save court resources for more severe crimes.

Vocational education teachers often deal with delinquency or the rehabilitation of young teenagers who have left the system. When I was a vocational teacher, the first thing I would tell young people was that I was welcoming them to their second chance, their opportunity to succeed in life, and that we would be there to support them.

It is important for adults to listen, but they may not always be the most suitable confidants for young people. If we had a system designed to help these young people overcome their challenges, many lives could be saved.

With the youth justice fund, the federal government provides an annual contribution of nearly $4.5 million to support projects that encourage a more effective youth justice system, respond to emerging youth justice issues, and enable greater citizen and community participation in the youth justice system.

This fund provides funding to “improve the youth justice system's ability to help youth rehabilitate and reintegrate; increase the use of out of court measures that are more effective in addressing some types of less serious offending...[and] increase the use of community-based sentences for less serious offending”.

Additionally, the federal government's youth justice services funding program provides all provinces and territories with an annual financial contribution totalling nearly $185 million for the period from 2021 to 2027 “to assist in the delivery of various programs and services that target youth who come in contact with the criminal justice system”.

Our government has also committed to providing urgent and immediate support in response to the overdose crisis. The federal government has developed measures to address the overdose crisis as part of the Canadian drugs and substances strategy. The government has committed to a public health and safety approach with a number of objectives, including making it easier to access vital services, reducing stigma around substance use and supporting prevention, treatment and recovery efforts.

The federal government has also committed significant funding to the illegal toxic drug and overdose crisis. For example, the federal government has invested over $750 million through the substance use and addiction program for more than 460 innovative community-based pilot projects since 2017, including peer support and capacity-building projects.

More specifically, when it comes to youth public health, the federal government has invested $500 million in the youth mental health fund. We have heard a lot about that from my colleague. These are illnesses that seem harmless, secret illnesses. We do not know what is going on in our kids' heads.

This program finally helps young people in Canada to access the mental health care they need. These investments mainly go toward increasing access to community-based mental health services and improving navigation and referral to mental health services and supports.

The federal government has also invested $20.2 million in the program to prevent youth substance use and associated harms. This program supports 12 community projects in developing a tailored approach to preventing and delaying substance use in youth.

Thanks to these investments, which are grounded in the realities that communities are facing, young people are getting the support, safety and opportunities they deserve when it comes to the prevention and treatment of substance use. In closing, this program made it possible to reach 198,200 young people through over 1,800 online sessions and 1,000 in-person sessions in high schools between April 2018 and March 2025.

In Canada, youth mental and emotional health and well-being is an important health issue that has several implications for the prevention of youth crime and for the youth criminal justice system. In Canada, people with mental illnesses and addictions are overrepresented in the criminal justice system.

Bill C-231 addresses an issue that is a major concern for all of us.

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11:55 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Madam Speaker, it is difficult for me to rise in the House this morning, but I do so with dignity. I think that what we have experienced this morning is one of the finest moments in the House in recent years. I commend my colleague from Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière for his courage. As a parent of teenagers, I have to say that what he went through is my worst nightmare. I also commend my colleague's wife, because together they made the decision to make this public so that we can remember their son. When he talks about David's friends, I am also thinking of all the parents of people like David who are still here and looking for answers.

The Bloc Québécois will support the member for Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière in this bill. For the Bloc members, the concept of prevention is certainly important. I commend the Conservatives for taking this step, under their colleague's influence, and bringing a dose of compassion to the debates, which is often sorely lacking.

I would like to take this opportunity to highlight the work of those on the ground, particularly frontline workers, who see people in distress and who are often brought face to face with powerless people whose behaviours are dictated by their addiction, not their will. Those people are often neglected. We must commend those who work on the front lines. In light of that, I invite everyone here to develop a better understanding of what drives people to use substances. For some people, their first experience is in a social setting, but there are also people who are struggling with addictions.

I would also like to highlight the work of a young woman from my riding. Her name is Catherine Jutras. She is a friend and an overdose prevention consultant for an organization known as Arrimage. She conducted a study on drug use that was entitled “La consommation, un monde 'stupéfiant'”. During the study, she met with me formally in my capacity as an MP, and the organization made a video to demystify the use of psychoactive substances. She introduced her study with the following sentence: “I don't want to become a statistic. If you die from an overdose, you become a number”. Given the current circumstances, I think that is particularly striking. I want my colleague from Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière to know that his work means that David will always be more than a statistic and that taking action to support prevention will bring significant long-term change.

I would like to talk about some observations concerning the use of psychoactive substances that Ms. Jutras makes in her study. People use substances for different reasons, ranging from mere habit to self-medication, recreational use and physical and mental pain relief. The majority of the people who use psychoactive substances feel or experience stigma. That has to stop in order for interventions to be effective. Stigma arises from multiple sectors of society, including individuals who use psychoactive substances, the general public and social systems, such as political, health care and legal institutions. It is often perpetuated by professionals and individuals within these systems who may sometimes behave dismissively toward people who come to them for help. Stigma poses a significant barrier to recovery for individuals striving to improve their lives. There is some food for thought here. Should we collaborate more with the people who use psychoactive substances? Should they be more involved? Should we listen to them more? That is what our colleague from Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière is reminding us today.

I would also like to mention some of the recommendations she put forward, because I believe the bill will go a long way from a legal standpoint, but I would also like us to take this opportunity to go further in terms of the services that are offered. In her study, she recommends that we reevaluate our perceptions and further our understanding of the use of psychoactive substances; consider how current services provided in the regions could be improved and seek more involvement from people who use psychoactive substances; improve the understanding of professionals working with substance users about the overall phenomenon of psychoactive substance use and offer them appropriate training; treat people hoping to improve their living conditions with consideration and dignity, regardless of the means they used to obtain a service; treat the person holistically in order to avoid compartmentalizing support by issue or observable trait; and examine the range of specialized services available to support people experiencing grief associated with an overdose and to understand their specific needs.

There is so much to do. I would like to commend my colleague for his courage in taking such an important step today.

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Noon

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes

The time provided for the consideration of Private Members' Business has now expired, and the order is dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

The House resumed from December 5 consideration of the motion that Bill C-15, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on November 4, 2025, be read the second time and referred to a committee, and of the amendment.

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Noon

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Madam Speaker, first of all, I would like to commend the courage of my colleague from Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière. He gave a very moving speech that took tremendous courage and a lot of guts, and I am very proud of him today. He has been a mentor to me since I first arrived. I want to congratulate him.

Last week, my speech was interrupted while I was talking about the generational budget, which the people in my riding call a credit card budget. I am honoured to pick up my speech where I left off. I spoke about agriculture and labour, and now I would like to talk about SMEs in the regions.

Our small and medium-sized businesses are vital to our communities. They create jobs and keep our communities and regions going. However, SMEs' costs keep going up and up. The government could be doing something about it, but this budget does nothing for them. Take credit card fees, for example. These fees are paid directly by SMEs and can be as much as 2% or 2.5%. In Europe, a law was passed that limits these credit card fees to 0.3%. I see nothing in this budget that supports SMEs.

Entrepreneurs need concrete support, not just fine words and fine speeches. I have been here for eight months, and it is time to put forward some real solutions to help SMEs survive, grow and invest. Canadians and the residents of Beauce do not want fine words; they want us to take action. They want us to work for them, not for ourselves. They want us to give them the straight goods.

Our role as members of Parliament is to be there on the ground, in our constituency offices; to be there with the Fédérations de l'âge d'or du Québec, in the arenas, and wherever people come together. Last week, we did seven or eight activities with some extraordinary people. The message is very clear: People want a better quality of life, and they want things to cost less. They want the government to take action. Most of all, they want a more affordable life.

On the other side of the House, they tell us that the industrial carbon tax has no impact on the cost of living. The truth, however, is that the tax adds 17¢ to the cost of a litre of diesel, and that amount comes directly out of the pockets of Canadians.

Let us now take action. Let us stop talking and act to support our farmers. Let us create wealth and provide businesses and workers with the right tools. Let us streamline programs and speed up processes that are extremely cumbersome.

One glaring omission in the budget is that it does not include any measures to improve cell coverage in my region of Beauce. This issue directly hinders business productivity. It is impossible to be competitive without access to such an essential service. However, there is nothing in this budget to address that. It is also a matter of public safety. A situation occurred in Saint-Martin, in my riding, during a children's activity. There was an emergency, and no one could get a cell signal. It could have been fatal. It is time to stop talking and start taking action. Our children should never be put at risk because of a lack of investment.

I touched on a number of points in my speech, but before we break for the holidays, I invite all members to use some of our time off to reflect, recharge their batteries and come back with concrete solutions for Canadians, not just to save our jobs and our ridings, but to help all 40 million Canadians. We are not here to pay lip service. We are here to make life better for Canadians.

I want the people of Beauce to know that I will continue to fight for them with all the energy they deserve. I wish them happy holidays.

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12:05 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, Bill C-15 is a part of the picture of building Canada strong. We talk a great deal about how the Prime Minister and the government are trying to advance the interests of Canadians. We do that every day. Contrast that with the members of the Conservative Party, who want to continue to filibuster legislation and prevent legislation from passing. There are significant changes that could be brought in through the budget implementation legislation, yet the Conservatives continue to not allow the bill to go to committee.

While the government of the day is focused on serving the interests of Canadians, we see the opposition party is more focused on its own self-serving political interests than on Canadians. When is that going to stop and when are we going to see this legislation be allowed to go to committee?

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12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Madam Speaker, my colleague just gave me the perfect opening. I learned the term “filibuster” here, over the past eight months. Let us talk about filibustering. The Liberal chair of the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities cancelled the last three meetings, and at four meetings, another member spoke for four hours to save his government. He hid behind his minister.

Guess what? We are talking about road safety here. Do not get me started on filibustering. It is a waste of time and money for everyone.

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12:05 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Madam Speaker, I want to thank my colleague from Beauce for his speech, which he ended by saying that he would fight for his constituents. We know that there are statistics that prove this, when we look at his profile on the HockeyDB website. I am very confident that the people of Beauce will be well represented.

My colleague talked about an important issue that is not part of Bill C‑15 and barely part of the budget, which is very regrettable: cell coverage in the regions. Why is the federal government ignoring this problem? This affects public safety and regional economic development, not to mention just making our regions feel like they are connected to the rest of the world. Living in the regions is not a sacrifice, it is not a privilege. We are making use of the land. This is where we live.

In his view, why is the federal government failing to invest more in something that should be an essential service?

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12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Madam Speaker, I would like to thank my Bloc colleague. I am guessing that the statistics were likely inflated back then. There was no Facebook in those days.

I want to come back to cell coverage by sharing an example of the situation in Beauce. It takes 20 minutes to drive from Saint-Georges to Saint-Éphrem-de-Beauce. For 15 minutes between these two places, there is no cell coverage. Nothing works. People also live between Saint-Georges and Saint-Éphrem-de-Beauce. Cell phone service affects more than just work and businesses. It also affects public safety. When there is an emergency, people use their cell phones.

This is an excellent question that I would like to put back to the Liberals: Why not invest? How much is the deficit costing us? It is huge, astronomical, but there is not a penny for the regions, as is customary with the Liberal government.

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12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Rob Morrison Conservative Columbia—Kootenay—Southern Rockies, BC

Madam Speaker, it is interesting that one of the highest paved roads in Canada, the Kootenay Pass, has no cell service. It is still, today, one of the most dangerous roads in Canada.

However, my question is actually related more to credit cards. So many people are relying on credit cards and the interest payments are becoming unmanageable, so that people cannot even afford to make those payments. That is sort of what the government is doing. When we do not have solid economic growth, we end up having a hard time paying off debt. We have sawmills, for example, that are using a line of credit to pay their staff. That is not sustainable. They will have to shut down those sawmills.

How do we move forward so that we do not have a credit card budget and are actually making some real payments and supporting Canadians?

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12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Madam Speaker, it is simple. If we want to ensure that people are not dependent on credit cards, we need to make life affordable for Canadians.

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12:10 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

Madam Speaker, it is always an honour to rise in the House to speak on any issue but, in particular, a budget. This budget strikes the balance that Canadians were looking for in the recent election.

When I was campaigning, voters were telling me they wanted to see government get smaller. They wanted to see government reduce its cost and size, but at the same time, they wanted to ensure that government was going to protect those social programs that Canadians cherish and look to so much across this country. I certainly will be supporting this budget because this budget strikes that balance. It is a budget that invests in programs that support our seniors, that support families and that support those who are facing hardships.

It is important for those watching the proceedings of the House of Commons to clearly see the difference between the Conservative ideology and Liberal ideology. Liberals will always support the programs Canadians depend on, and there is nothing more glaring than in the area of seniors' pensions. I have been listening to speeches in the House from the opposition over the past number of months about the cost of living and its impact on those most vulnerable, primarily seniors.

However, if it was not for this government, then a senior aged 65 to 67 today would be living with $22,140 less, because this was the group of people that a former Conservative government decided did not need the support of the old age pension program or the guaranteed income supplement. If we think for a moment about a person in this age category, how would those costs, which continue to go up, impact them without this particular amount of money? At the time, Conservatives felt it was not important that seniors in this age category be given this public benefit, a benefit they worked so hard for over the years.

That was just old age pensions. The Canada child benefit is one of the programs that our government, in the early days, brought in that I am most proud of, because it fundamentally changed the lives of many families that were living and struggling financially. I can give case after case of families that tell me how important it is to them and how it allowed them to have their children participate in programs that they could not do before. There is the child care program and the dental program as well. Of course, there is also the employment insurance system, which Canadians, unfortunately, when they lose their jobs, have to depend on from time to time.

However, every time Conservatives could have supported these vulnerable Canadians, they voted against the measures our government was putting in place. It is hard to sit here from time to time and quietly listen to the comments that come from across the floor about their, what I will call, manufactured concern for Canadians in need, because every time they have the opportunity to support those programs, they vote against them, time and time again. I see it in my riding on a daily basis.

With this budget, Canada is confronting a fiscal challenge. A lot of it is being brought on by a world that has become extremely unstable. We have an unpredictable neighbour to the south and that is having negative consequences for some industries here north of the border. However, our government chose to invest long term rather than take a cut-and-slash approach, which is so common with the Conservative ideology. This is why I support this particular budget, and that is why I will continue to advocate for it in these areas.

I look at my province of P.E.I.—