Environment Committee on Dec. 1st, 2025

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

Okay.

So there's an agreement with Alberta. Mr. Guilbeault, the former environment minister and former heritage minister, says that, for him, it's too much. He says that this is the last straw, particularly because the clean electricity regulations are too important.

However, you're telling me that this is part of an agreement between Canada and Alberta and that no one in the department or in the government has assessed its impact. Mr. Guilbeault, the honourable member for Laurier—Sainte‑Marie, is getting all worked up.

Can you give us that assessment? What happens if Alberta….

Half of the greenhouse gas emissions in electricity in Canada come from Alberta.

[Mollie Johnson]

To be clear, the impacts associated with the CER are clearly laid out in the RIAS, which is the regulatory impact analysis statement. Those are transparently available for all folks. That will set out what the emissions impacts are in Alberta when the CER comes into effect on January 1, 2035. Then that would—

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

So you don't know.

[Mollie Johnson]

No, no, it's there. We're happy to share that information and the RIAS with it. I don't have it right here in front of me, but I'm happy to share that information with you.

Megan, I don't know if you have any additional information.

[Megan Nichols]

Again, I don't have the document in front of me.

However, I believe it's about 100 megatonnes by 2050.

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

I'm sorry. By when?

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Give a brief answer, please.

[Megan Nichols]

I don't have the document, but if I remember correctly, it's about 100 megatonnes by 2050.

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

It's 182 million tonnes—

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Thank you.

Mr. Bexte, the floor is yours for five minutes.

[David Bexte, Conservative, Bow River, AB]

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, officials, for being here today, still.

I'll go on a little bit of a different angle for ECCC officials.

Out of 371 grants and contributions that Environment Canada gave in 2025, are any of the recipient organizations connected to Brookfield?

[Linda Drainville, Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Corporate Services and Financial Management Branch, Department of the Environment]

No. None of them.

[David Bexte, Conservative, Bow River, AB]

Zero?

[Linda Drainville]

Zero.

[David Bexte, Conservative, Bow River, AB]

Not one subsidiary or any—

[Linda Drainville]

No. Not one.

[David Bexte, Conservative, Bow River, AB]

Nothing.

[Linda Drainville]

Yes.

[David Bexte, Conservative, Bow River, AB]

Okay.

What was the total dollar value of projects funded by grants and contributions from Environment Canada?

[Linda Drainville]

Do you mean from the beginning of the fiscal year?

[David Bexte, Conservative, Bow River, AB]

I mean for 2024-25.

[Linda Drainville]

If you will give me a second, I have that information.

[David Bexte, Conservative, Bow River, AB]

Maybe simplify it with a little bit of a subset. Of those contributions, what were from projects abroad?

[Linda Drainville]

I have this, if you can give me 30 seconds. I think we are talking about—

[David Bexte, Conservative, Bow River, AB]

I don't have 30 seconds. I have very limited time.